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A few points about the Mueller investigation 18 months in.

Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:43 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118683 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:43 am
Mueller and his team of partisan Democrats never pursued a crime of "collusion". There is no such crime. That is a media creation.

Mueller and his team (which includes the DOJ and FBI) primary objective is to protect the DOJ and FBI and in doing so they will overlook crimes committed by the previous administration including Clinton because charging those people damages the reputation of the DOJ and FBI. Mueller is beholden to the reputation of those government institutions. Furthermore, Mueller is charging people with previous associations with Trump and lose associations to the Clintons to keep their mouths shut and to teach them and observers a lesson to never support an outside presidential candidate again.


Mueller and his team are also focusing on "Russian meddling" to feed the MUH Russians Democrat and media narrative. None of the Russians charged will be found guilty. The indictment of Russians is all for show and narrative development.

Trump is safe. Mueller knows it and Trump knows it.

Trump has not declassified because of the following:

1. It would come off as obstruction.

2. Why would he declassify if Mueller is perusing Russian meddling charges? Despite the media narrative, Russian meddling has nothing to do with Trump.

Mueller is not out to get Trump however the Democrats believe the purpose of the Mueller investigation is to get Trump for something and with the help of the media perpetuate that narrative.

The true tragedy and attack on law and order to our democracy is the actions by Mueller led by Rosenstein to cover up the spygate conspiracy that occurred at the highest levels of our government in the previous administration and the cover up of the espionage crimes that Hillary committed. But again, allowing those crimes to be uncovered will severely damage the DOJ and FBI possibly beyond repair and that is what Mueller is most afraid of, thus he needs to hide these crimes.

Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:45 am to
you had me, up to here:

quote:

Mueller is not out to get
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:45 am to
quote:

Mueller is not out to get Trump

Yes he is
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:46 am to
I do agree with this though:

quote:

The true tragedy and attack on law and order to our democracy is the actions by Mueller led by Rosenstein to cover up the spygate conspiracy that occurred at the highest levels of our government in the previous administration and the cover up of the espionage crimes that Hillary committed. But again, allowing those crimes to be uncovered will severely damage the DOJ and FBI possibly beyond repair and that is what Mueller is most afraid of, thus he needs to hide these crimes.

Posted by Bigtigah
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Sep 2006
3929 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:48 am to
I want to see Obama fried.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146570 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:53 am to
quote:

Mueller and his team (which includes the DOJ and FBI) primary objective is to protect the DOJ and FBI and in doing so they will overlook crimes committed by the previous administration including Clinton because charging those people damages the reputation of the DOJ and FBI. Mueller is beholden to the reputation of those government institutions. Furthermore, Mueller is charging people with previous associations with Trump and lose associations to the Clintons to keep their mouths shut and to teach them and observers a lesson to never support an outside presidential candidate again.


Mueller and his team are also focusing on "Russian meddling" to feed the MUH Russians Democrat and media narrative. None of the Russians charged will be found guilty. The indictment of Russians is all for show and narrative development.

Trump is safe. Mueller knows it and Trump knows it.
If all was revealed, including Obama, HRC, both Bush's, the Clinton's, Congress and so forth: all of DC would be shut down.

Yet if Obama and HRC skate no one will trust the instituitions of govt. the FBI/DOJ anymore.

Obama indeed spied, colluded, wiretapped, abused his power, gave aid, gold, cash and comfort to our enemies, obstructed; and if anyone is close to true treason he and HRC are. And why is U1 so silenced?

I also want to know what happened with the taxpayer funded sex scandal in DC?

Also, can they all still do insider trading?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118683 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:57 am to
quote:

you had me, up to here:

quote:
quote:

Mueller is not out to get



Okay, you are right.

I believe early in the investigation Mueller had big ambitions to get Trump legally. Now, since there is nothing Mueller has to provide fodder for Democrats and the MSM to get Trump politically.

So when I said "Mueller is not out to get Trump" in my OP I meant in the context of the law because there is nothing to get Trump on. But I do believe like everyone else Mueller does want to get Trump by any means necessary. The only means currently available to Mueller is political.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146570 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:00 am to
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Mueller is not out to get Trump however the Democrats believe the purpose of the Mueller investigation is to get Trump for something and with the help of the media perpetuate that narrative.


1. why did Mueller appoint the biggest leftest political hacks imaginable for the SC?

2. Unless HRC and Obama are the subject of a secret grand jury and the MSM is embargoed from reporting on. (Yet Trump muh Russians is okay to leak to the MSM) Mueller is a part of the deep state as well as RR.

3. I don't think they were counting on the OIG DOJ having big enough balls to report on Page and Peter.

4. Why would Mueller appoint dem lawyers making millions? to report that Trump was set up? I doubt it.
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:07 am to
It is explains why Trump didn't fire him early on, Trump knows there is nothing there, no doubt he has a clean conscience.

But its becoming more and more evident that Mueller was placed there to try to clean up for the deep state, whenever called upon. I have no doubt that that Mueller has a network of swamp folks telling him when to play certain cards, in the end though they aren't as clever as they think, it only takes one person to flip that will eventually expose some bad shite. Problem is that the media is a safety net for that as well.
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 9:09 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118683 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:18 am to
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it only takes one person to flip that will eventually expose some bad shite. Problem is that the media is a safety net for that as well.



These whistle blowers also have a threat of repercussions from the "deep state". I believe that means things like being overlooked for promotions or reassigned to shitty assignments. When that is your livelihood that's a big deal.

If Sessions could do anything maybe he could setup some type of legal sanctuary for whistle blowers.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118683 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:20 am to
quote:

I also want to know what happened with the taxpayer funded sex scandal in DC?



Me too.

quote:

Also, can they all still do insider trading?


Yeah, I'm pretty sure they can.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6937 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:20 am to
You left off Mueller trying to cover his tracks in the Uranium One deal
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24863 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:24 am to
quote:

Mueller is not out to get Trump


Not directly through anything like an indictment, charge, etc against the man. However, indirectly, the whole thing seems to be "out to get him" by tainting his election win, his presidency, his administration, etc.
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:26 am to
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The true tragedy and attack on law and order to our democracy is the actions by Mueller led by Rosenstein


This made me laugh.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:27 am to
If we held a Constitutional Convention - does anyone believe that would help? I think the DC elite would ignore it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118683 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:35 am to
quote:

The true tragedy and attack on law and order to our democracy is the actions by Mueller led by Rosenstein


quote:

This made me laugh.



It should. I purposely used Democrat talking points.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118683 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:37 am to
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If we held a Constitutional Convention - does anyone believe that would help?


You mean Convention of States to amend the constitution.
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