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4750 excess suicide deaths during the Great Recession
Posted on 3/20/20 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 3/20/20 at 11:54 pm
This acceleration corresponds to an additional 1580 suicides per year (95% CI 860–2300). Thus, during the recessionary period after 2007, there were an estimated 4750 excess suicide deaths (95% CI 2570–6920.
Cure kills the patient.
thelancet
Cure kills the patient.
thelancet
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 12:36 am
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Posted on 3/20/20 at 11:58 pm to QboveTopSecret
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:06 am to ChEgrad
Thx, Herd immunity with common sense measures and this could have been avoided.
When General fauci said it was 10x worse than the flu the cake was baked.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:08 am to QboveTopSecret
I’m pleased to see the discussion occur.
I’ve never been ashamed to speak out about my daily battles with chronic, clinical depression and social anxiety disorder; they’re illnesses and aren’t something I chose.
That said, my psychiatrist (not my therapist) requires I see him once a month.
His office is currently closed indefinitely; however, they called me today and are insisting on scheduling a phone/virtual/Skype (my choice) appointment with me, ASAP.
I appreciated the proactive nature.
Please check-in on your friends, neighbors, and family.
We all need to take care of each other.
I’ve never been ashamed to speak out about my daily battles with chronic, clinical depression and social anxiety disorder; they’re illnesses and aren’t something I chose.
That said, my psychiatrist (not my therapist) requires I see him once a month.
His office is currently closed indefinitely; however, they called me today and are insisting on scheduling a phone/virtual/Skype (my choice) appointment with me, ASAP.
I appreciated the proactive nature.
Please check-in on your friends, neighbors, and family.
We all need to take care of each other.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:14 am to EKG
Thanks for the support, Lost my sister in law to opioids after the 2008 crash. We missed a lot of signs.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:18 am to ChEgrad
quote:
Powerline is thinking along those lines also.
LINK
Is the cure worse than the disease?
I threw that out there a couple days ago and some lefty dickhead challenged me to a ban bet.
I said who the frick is going to measure that accurately and even if they could would they even report it? People will be pissed off.
However many hundred thousand will be invested by the virus.
330 million (with a relatively small number of exceptions) have been "infested" by what is neing done to the economy.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:26 am to QboveTopSecret
quote:
Thx, Herd immunity with common sense measures and this could have been avoided.
Media took that out of play early on by inciting panic in attempt to dent economy and take down President.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 5:40 am to QboveTopSecret
I was saying this yesterday to someone and taken to task. Unfortunately the domestic violence deaths are going to increase significantly the longer people are locked in too. I have no science to back this, just a lifetime working in public safety which unfortunately allows me to see these trends regardless of whether or not they make the news.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 6:25 am to EKG
quote:
I’ve never been ashamed to speak out about my daily battles with chronic, clinical depression and social anxiety disorder; they’re illnesses and aren’t something I chose.
Thanks for sharing. I have dealt personally with mild depression but have been specifically yoked with anxiety disorders for 25 years, particularly mysophobia and agoraphobia. I suppose one of the unintended positive consequences of such is that I have two internally hard-wired mechanisms that happen to be the most effective preventions against contracting the virus. I wish you and yours well in this stressful time.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 6:50 am to QboveTopSecret
I’ve been saying that. I am surrounded by people that will have to delay retirement or lost their jobs or businesses. We will look back 5 years from now and see more depression related suicide deaths than deaths from the virus.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:03 am to Icansee4miles
quote:
We will look back 5 years from now and see more depression related suicide deaths than deaths from the virus
And no one will be held to account for the irrational panic that was caused.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:06 am to Icansee4miles
March 21, 2020
Anthony Fauci, the NIH’s face of the coronavirus, is a deep-state Hillary Clinton-loving stooge
From: Mills, Cheryl D
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:21 PM
To: H
Subject: FW: Today's performance From your doctor admirer
From: Fauci, Anthony (NIH/NIAID)
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:10 PM
To: Mills, Cheryl D
Subject: Today's performance
Cheryl: Anyone who had any doubts about the Secretary's stamina and capability following her illness had those doubts washed away by today's performance before the Senate and the House. She faced extremely difficult circumstances at the Hearings and still she hit it right out of the park.
Please tell her that we all love her and are very proud to know her.
Warm regards,
Tony
Anthony S. Fauci, MD Director National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
OK, fine. So Fauci’s a typical, deeply embedded administrative state hack who can be expected to be obsequious to his political bosses like Mrs. Clinton. But there’s more to it than that.
Careful observers have noted that after the almost daily White House news conferences with President Trump and members of the Coronavirus Task Force, Fauci, a regular attendee and the task force’s chief medical spokesman, often runs to Trump-hating media like CNN to contradict – usually with a degree of nuance that gives him a degree of plausible deniability – what the president has just said. The Daily Mail of London noted this behavior in a March 20 article, “Dr Anthony Fauci caught rolling his eyes and smirking as President Trump rants about the 'deep state' during coronavirus press conference.”
That’s Fauci now, subtly undercutting the president – how about back then?
Anthony Fauci, M.D. has been the director of the NIAID since 1984 and for the next two-plus decades, when HIV-AIDS was the ticket, Fauci was the cheerleading team captain of the effort. In 2006, for a PBS documentary on AIDS, Fauci gave a long interview boasting about his role in the AIDS war, the full transcript of which is still online here.
One of Fauci’s fondest memories of his frontline scientific work on AIDS is this gem. In his own words:
I remember a conversation late into the middle of the night in my home with Bono as we were eating pasta that I cooked for him in my back porch talking about what the best way to go about this thing is. You have a rock star talking to me who is helping to put together something for the president, and we're getting bipartisan support, which is sometimes unusual in this city. We are clearly getting bipartisan support for this. It was really a wonderful thing that happened.
americanthinker
Anthony Fauci, the NIH’s face of the coronavirus, is a deep-state Hillary Clinton-loving stooge
From: Mills, Cheryl D
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:21 PM
To: H
Subject: FW: Today's performance From your doctor admirer
From: Fauci, Anthony (NIH/NIAID)
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:10 PM
To: Mills, Cheryl D
Subject: Today's performance
Cheryl: Anyone who had any doubts about the Secretary's stamina and capability following her illness had those doubts washed away by today's performance before the Senate and the House. She faced extremely difficult circumstances at the Hearings and still she hit it right out of the park.
Please tell her that we all love her and are very proud to know her.
Warm regards,
Tony
Anthony S. Fauci, MD Director National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
OK, fine. So Fauci’s a typical, deeply embedded administrative state hack who can be expected to be obsequious to his political bosses like Mrs. Clinton. But there’s more to it than that.
Careful observers have noted that after the almost daily White House news conferences with President Trump and members of the Coronavirus Task Force, Fauci, a regular attendee and the task force’s chief medical spokesman, often runs to Trump-hating media like CNN to contradict – usually with a degree of nuance that gives him a degree of plausible deniability – what the president has just said. The Daily Mail of London noted this behavior in a March 20 article, “Dr Anthony Fauci caught rolling his eyes and smirking as President Trump rants about the 'deep state' during coronavirus press conference.”
That’s Fauci now, subtly undercutting the president – how about back then?
Anthony Fauci, M.D. has been the director of the NIAID since 1984 and for the next two-plus decades, when HIV-AIDS was the ticket, Fauci was the cheerleading team captain of the effort. In 2006, for a PBS documentary on AIDS, Fauci gave a long interview boasting about his role in the AIDS war, the full transcript of which is still online here.
One of Fauci’s fondest memories of his frontline scientific work on AIDS is this gem. In his own words:
I remember a conversation late into the middle of the night in my home with Bono as we were eating pasta that I cooked for him in my back porch talking about what the best way to go about this thing is. You have a rock star talking to me who is helping to put together something for the president, and we're getting bipartisan support, which is sometimes unusual in this city. We are clearly getting bipartisan support for this. It was really a wonderful thing that happened.
americanthinker
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 7:10 am
Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:15 am to chris911guy
Yes, believe this. Some people were barely hanging on by a thread prior to all of this. Not many people have excess money squirreled away for a life changing stressor (such as losing a job) in an emergency. If they aren't having money coming in or can't draw unemployment very quickly, and are holed up in their house, expect it to go up.
Combine it with the fact that younger people don't have the coping skills anymore that the older generations have and this makes for a bad situation.
Combine it with the fact that younger people don't have the coping skills anymore that the older generations have and this makes for a bad situation.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:30 am to financetiger
Crashed and burned after 2008, GenX is taking it on the chin.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:34 am to QboveTopSecret
I know two mental health professionals who have already said there is an uptick in suicides in the last 3 weeks.
These would be people with "issues" and the panic is the final straw. Once financial issues get tight it will get worse.
These would be people with "issues" and the panic is the final straw. Once financial issues get tight it will get worse.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:37 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
Their estates should be allowed to sue the msm after this over for causing a panic.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:38 am to QboveTopSecret
quote:
(95% CI 860–2300).
Okay
quote:
(95% CI 2570–6920.
Kind of a large spread in the second set.
I think suicide is difficult and hard to actually determine. Likely more variables that aren't accounted for and numbers could go anyway depending on the variables. I hope they didn't only account for recession in their study.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:43 am to Big4SALTbro
quote:
Their estates should be allowed to sue the msm after this over for causing a panic.
Only in a just world which is not the one we live in. The MSM will be on to the next hyped up crisis after this is over in a few weeks to months. They never pay for what they do.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:45 am to momentoftruth87
Not counting the ones who lost Insurance, a yearly physical can save your life.
Great Recession tied to more than 10,000 suicides
Karen WeintraubSpecial for USA TODAY
"It's a fairly large and substantial increase over what we would have expected," said Aaron Reeves, a sociologist and post-doctoral researcher at the University of Oxford in England, who helped lead the research. "There are, broadly speaking, large mental health implications of the economic crisis that are still being felt by many people."
usatoday
Great Recession tied to more than 10,000 suicides
Karen WeintraubSpecial for USA TODAY
"It's a fairly large and substantial increase over what we would have expected," said Aaron Reeves, a sociologist and post-doctoral researcher at the University of Oxford in England, who helped lead the research. "There are, broadly speaking, large mental health implications of the economic crisis that are still being felt by many people."
usatoday
Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:49 am to QboveTopSecret
That article also says
quote:
The study showed that antidepressant prescription rates rose by nearly 20% in the U.K. from 2007 to 2010 – although previous research has found that antidepressant use does not have a major impact on suicide rates
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