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re: 45 yrs ago today the War on Women began: Mary Jo Kopechne killed by Ted Kennedy
Posted on 7/20/14 at 5:00 pm to Pinecone Repair
Posted on 7/20/14 at 5:00 pm to Pinecone Repair
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Strong rebuttal.
As strong as your usual propaganda.
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 5:02 pm to mike4lsu
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Ted Kennedy is long gone. Its been 45 years.
Ted died 45 years ago? Boy, his ghost sure passed a lot of bad law.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 5:03 pm to Zach
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Ted died 45 years ago? Boy, his ghost sure passed a lot of bad law.
His ghost got fat as frick too
Posted on 7/20/14 at 5:11 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Who has killed more women?
1. Ted Kennedy's car
2. The Tea Party
Are you supposing that no more than a single Tea Party member has ever killed a woman?
I'd like to think that we could hold prominent politicians to a higher moral standard than your average unhinged wacko.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 5:15 pm to REG861
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I'd like to think that we could hold prominent politicians to a higher moral standard than your average unhinged wacko.
Yet he still hasn't found one unhinged Tea Party wacko.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 5:22 pm to wfeliciana
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As strong as your usual propaganda
What propaganda?
Maybe it makes you feel better about your poorly thought out comments to insult mine,but it kinda makes you look pathetic.
You can't provide an argument to disprove what I've said so you toss insults.
Typical lib-prog.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 5:23 pm to SpidermanTUba
Are you supposing that no more than a single Tea Party member has ever killed a woman?
Since there is no such a thing, yes.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 5:27 pm to Pinecone Repair
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You can't provide an argument to disprove what I've said so you toss insults.
Typical lib-prog.
There you go again. Lumping folks into a group that you love to denigrate.
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but it kinda makes you look pathetic.
That's a matter of opinion isn't it. For instance your jewel of a thought that those that take more from assistance than they put into the system should not be allowed to vote, seemed rather pathetic to me.
ETA: And you never did answer my question about Mrs. Vitter,,,
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 7/20/14 at 5:45 pm to wfeliciana
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There you go again. Lumping folks into a group that you love to denigrate.
I don't really have an issue with lumping people together. I guess you must not mind it either when you're doing it : eta- Like when you lump "women voters" altogether and here-
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(Posted on 7/20/14 at 4:25 pm to Pinecone Repair)
?"Right....and only the Dems are the horrible ones. Those Repubs are wonderful- only they have the high moral ground. Only they have informed voters. They own you hook, line, and sinker Pinecone."
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That's a matter of opinion isn't it. For instance your jewel of a thought that those that take more from assistance than they put into the system should not be allowed to vote, seemed rather pathetic to me.
Pathetic? Why? Do you not think that it could be unhealthy for our republic for takers to vote for politicians who promise them more of other peoples money?
Seems like those who take more than they put in have a conflict of interest and may not always be objective voters. Oh, and I can't take credit for that as it was not my original thought. You have me confused with another poster.
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ETA: And you never did answer my question about Mrs. Vitter,,,
You have me confused with another poster...
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 7/20/14 at 5:49 pm to wfeliciana
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Refresh my memory did Mrs. Vitter divorce her husband
Women don't expect men to be perfect. Some women can forgive an affair. But any woman who tolerates serial adultery has some problems of her own.
When you have a man who has constantly harassed women, one woman going so far as to accuse him of rape, and his wife stays with him, not only enabling him, but going in to full attack mode on those whom he has preyed, then that says as much about her as it does him.
Wendy Vitter is not running for office. If she stayed with him after countless affairs, so she could further her own career I would say the same about her.
I'm no fan of Newt Gingrich, and make no apologies or defense of him. But which one of his wives stood by him through numerous affairs and then ran for office?
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I'm sure you've never read her book and explanation of how she felt and why she worked on their marriage.
You're right, I've never read her book. I know by her actions what she is.
There is so much evidence of her covering up for her husband, that has absolutely no credence. She has also shown an astounding lack of integrity in business affairs. Her faux championing of "women's issues" is what really is galling.
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 7/20/14 at 6:00 pm to Pinecone Repair
First and foremost you are right I did confuse you with redandright on the Mrs. Vitter question. My apology.
Look at what I was posting that in response to Pinecone-it was sarcasm. You do lump everyone together and it's always a put down of them. That's okay. That's the way you roll and you freely admit you have no problem lumping them together. I though have problems with that. Everyone isn't the same.
Well it seems to work for corporations..I mean vote for big business but let's have some corporate welfare. Honestly people vote for someone for many different reasons, some valid to me, some invalid to me. Plus I don't buy into your premise. But what I do think is dangerous for America, is changing a voting system to where only one class or one group gets to vote. Frankly, it is one of the most un-American things I can think of. Why don't we just go from that to we should not let women vote because they are just emotional thinkers or that they can't possibly vote because they are not tough enough to fight in a war or when they are pregnant they are just too hormonal to think right or better yet they don't pay as much taxes as men.
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I don't really have an issue with lumping people together. I guess you must not mind it either when you're doing it :
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(Posted on 7/20/14 at 4:25 pm to Pinecone Repair)
?"Right....and only the Dems are the horrible ones. Those Repubs are wonderful- only they have the high moral ground. Only they have informed voters. They own you hook, line, and sinker Pinecone."
Look at what I was posting that in response to Pinecone-it was sarcasm. You do lump everyone together and it's always a put down of them. That's okay. That's the way you roll and you freely admit you have no problem lumping them together. I though have problems with that. Everyone isn't the same.
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Pathetic? Why? Do you not think that it could be unhealthy for our republic for takers to vote for politicians who promise them more of other peoples money?
Seems like those who take more than they put in have a conflict of interest and may not always be objective voters. Oh, and I can't take credit for that as it was not my original thought. You have me confused with another poster.
Well it seems to work for corporations..I mean vote for big business but let's have some corporate welfare. Honestly people vote for someone for many different reasons, some valid to me, some invalid to me. Plus I don't buy into your premise. But what I do think is dangerous for America, is changing a voting system to where only one class or one group gets to vote. Frankly, it is one of the most un-American things I can think of. Why don't we just go from that to we should not let women vote because they are just emotional thinkers or that they can't possibly vote because they are not tough enough to fight in a war or when they are pregnant they are just too hormonal to think right or better yet they don't pay as much taxes as men.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 6:17 pm to wfeliciana
Except women voters. You think we're all the same. So it's OK to lump people together when you think you are right about that group? Got it! Apparently I just didn't know the rules .
Is it welfare if they are keeping more of what they have earned?
Usually if they are receiving gov benefits they aren't voting to decrease them.
There is a reason only land owners could vote.
You have proven men can be just as irrational.
quote:corporations are people- SCOTUS said so. You like Unions?
Well it seems to work for corporations..I mean vote for big business but let's have some corporate welfare.
Is it welfare if they are keeping more of what they have earned?
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Honestly people vote for someone for many different reasons, some valid to me, some invalid to me.
Usually if they are receiving gov benefits they aren't voting to decrease them.
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Plus I don't buy into your premise. But what I do think is dangerous for America, is changing a voting system to where only one class or one group gets to vote.
There is a reason only land owners could vote.
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Frankly, it is one of the most un-American things I can think of. Why don't we just go from that to we should not let women vote because they are just emotional thinkers or that they can't possibly vote because they are not tough enough to fight in a war or when they are pregnant they are just too hormonal to think right or better yet they don't pay as much taxes as men.
You have proven men can be just as irrational.
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 7/20/14 at 6:21 pm to Pinecone Repair
Still waiting on info about the Tea party killer, let's go Tuba, drop the lil Debbie snack cakes and put your money where your mouth is.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 7:21 pm to Pinecone Repair
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Except women voters. You think we're all the same. So it's OK to lump people together when you think you are right about that group? Got it! Apparently I just didn't know the rules .
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You have proven men can be just as irrational.
No Pinecone I am in fact very pro woman. I actually think this country and the political system is rampant with sexism. That truly is one reason when I see you and other female posters just go off on so called "feminists" that I get riled. However my use of the women examples was to try to get you to consider the slippery slope of what you suggested. Where and who gets to draw the next line when any class of voters can be disenfranchised. They call it a slippery slope for a reason.
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corporations are people- SCOTUS said so. You like Unions?
Is it welfare if they are keeping more of what they have earned?
Again my point as I said earlier is that everyone has a reason for who they vote for and it can certainly be for self-interest but don't just paint one group with voting in self interest. And BTW-yes I do like unions in general.
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There is a reason only land owners could vote.
Really, and pray tell what is that reason? To keep the riffraff from voting? If you really believe this you belong in another century. Plus I guess then banks would be voting, since unless one owns their home and land free and clear then they don't really own it. Wouldn't leave many to vote. Like I said, I find this very un-American.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 7:31 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Guess Tuba isn't gonna respond, fat man up and vanished like a fart in the wind.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 7:33 pm to wfeliciana
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No Pinecone I am in fact very pro woman. I actually think this country and the political system is rampant with sexism. That truly is one reason when I see you and other female posters just go off on so called "feminists" that I get riled.
There's a devil behind every wigglin bush if you look hard enough and that's the staple of liberal ideology. Find victims, blame someone.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 7:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There's a devil behind every wigglin bush if you look hard enough and that's the staple of liberal ideology. Find victims, blame someone.
And that doesn't hold true for Rs Roger? Or is it look under every bush and find a conspiracy?
Posted on 7/20/14 at 7:45 pm to wfeliciana
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And that doesn't hold true for Rs Roger? Or is it look under every bush and find a conspiracy?
Why are you comparing liberals and Republicans?
Posted on 7/20/14 at 7:46 pm to wfeliciana
I volunteer to inspect every bush 
Posted on 7/20/14 at 7:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Why are you comparing liberals and Republicans?
Okay, let's say conservatives and/or Tea Party members. I know you know what I mean.
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