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re: 140 GOP congressmen voted to allow 300K jobs to be taken away from US grads today

Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:31 pm to
Posted by ewdij
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:31 pm to
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With all due respect to you, when my congressmen are telling me we have to pay more money to bail out student debt and then they turn around and outsource American jobs then you better believe I don't give 2 cents about helping people of other nations.



H1B and not green card impacts outsourcing. I don't know whether you realize this or not the Indian outsourcers are actually against this bill. the Green card backlog let's all these Indian IT consulting companies to hold on to their talent at a cheap price because those employees are stuck with those employers. When you get green card you get mobility meaning the Indian outsourcers will not be able to exploit those H-1B visa workers anymore.

I do completely agree with you that H1B Visa needs a lot of reforms. But that is a separate issue and has nothing to do with this bill.
Posted by Jjdoc
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:33 pm to
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And I am sure many native Americans would like to see it go back to 1492.

So what exactly is your point?


His point was clear.
Posted by ewdij
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Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:35 pm to
Serious question... Why is a person from Iceland more worthy of getting a faster Green card than me an Indian? I've been waiting in the line for 10 years. Why do they get to cut the line? Why do you think that is okay?
Posted by Jjdoc
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:37 pm to
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I do completely agree with you that H1B Visa needs a lot of reforms. But that is a separate issue and has nothing to do with this bill.


The issue with this bill is it adds 75,000 more per year to immigration. That's 75K less jobs to the American citizen.

It's pretty clear sir.
Posted by braindeadboxer
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:40 pm to
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Serious question... Why is a person from Iceland more worthy of getting a faster Green card than me an Indian? I've been waiting in the line for 10 years. Why do they get to cut the line? Why do you think that is okay?


Short answer?

Western nations assimilate quicker and its easier to vet people from smaller 1st world nation than a 3rd world nation of billions wrought with corruption and low standards of healthcare. India still has polio and leprosy, think we are just going to fast track you on in here permanently without doing some extra digging? India has millions of Muslims, China has billions of communist and is known for spying and theft of technology.

So yea, it’s gonna take you longer. Deal with it
Posted by September 1948
Member since Jun 2018
2133 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:41 pm to
Just why are you here and working if you don't have a green card?

None of you should be here unless every American who wants to work has a job. WTH.
Posted by ewdij
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Member since Jun 2006
1363 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:41 pm to
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The legislation offers roughly 75,000 extra green cards per year to encourage Indian graduates to become contract workers in the United States.


Jjdoc, article is completely fabricated. It's a lie. The above quote is 100% false.

Here is the link to the actual bill LINK

Show me where the 75,000 new green card is coming from.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:44 pm to
I agree totally ... the GOP's feet should be held to the fire on this.

How many Dems voted for this bullshite?
Posted by ewdij
LSU
Member since Jun 2006
1363 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:44 pm to
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Just why are you here and working if you don't have a green card?


I'm not sure what do you mean. You're legally allowed to work in United States even if you don't have a green card. I am on a work visa and waiting for a green card which my employer filed 10 years back.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:45 pm to
Because there are far fewer of them for one.

Indians, other than motel and convenience store owners, are primarily in IT. Putting such a large percentage of our IT work into the hands of those from a foreign country, a country with a population far far larger than ours, is bad business long term.

Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:46 pm to
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Serious question... Why is a person from Iceland more worthy of getting a faster Green card than me an Indian?


Because he is a Westerner and should get priority over you.

This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 10:48 pm
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39419 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:47 pm to
White people are more important to America
Posted by ewdij
LSU
Member since Jun 2006
1363 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:50 pm to
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Western nations assimilate quicker and its easier to vet people from smaller 1st world nation than a 3rd world nation of billions wrought with corruption and low standards of healthcare. India still has polio and leprosy, think we are just going to fast track you on in here permanently without doing some extra digging? India has millions of Muslims, China has billions of communist and is known for spying and theft of technology.


Braindeadboxer, you have no idea what you are talking about. This wait is post-vetting. I have already been vetted.

Also, India has polio and leprosy, and African countries don't? How come there is no restrictions on green cards from people from Sierra Leone and Liberia the countries that were ravaged by Ebola as recently as two years back? Indian need more vetting, and Saudis and Pakistanis don't? Malaysia is the largest Muslim country and they don't have to wait for green cards. None of your arguments make any sense.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:50 pm to
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Indians, other than motel and convenience store owners, are primarily in IT. Putting such a large percentage of our IT work into the hands of those from a foreign country, a country with a population far far larger than ours, is bad business long term.



Yeah, and look at what a country full of Indians looks like.
Posted by ewdij
LSU
Member since Jun 2006
1363 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:52 pm to
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Because he is a Westerner and should get priority over you.



And why is that not racist?
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:52 pm to
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Also, India has polio and leprosy, and African countries don't? How come there is no restrictions on green cards from people from Sierra Leone and Liberia the countries that were ravaged by Ebola as recently as two years back? Indian need more vetting, and Saudis and Pakistanis don't? Malaysia is the largest Muslim country and they don't have to wait for green cards. None of your arguments make any sense.


Nice list of countries that we should close to immigration.

This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 10:53 pm
Posted by braindeadboxer
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:54 pm to
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so, India has polio and leprosy, and African countries don't? How come there is no restrictions on green cards from people from Sierra Leone and Liberia the countries that were ravaged by Ebola as recently as two years back? Indian need more vetting, and Saudis and Pakistanis don't? Malaysia is the largest Muslim country and they don't have to wait for green cards. None of your arguments make any sense.


Oh don’t get me wrong, I think we need to make all of those 3rd world folks wait a lot longer as well.

Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35822 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:54 pm to
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am Indian, have a PhD in ECE from LSU, I'm a professor in a public university ever since I graduated from LSU,



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Don't believe there article.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:54 pm to
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And why is that not racist?



Lol, dude, you are barking up the wrong tree. I am "racist", and I don't give a shite what you think about it. Go back to India if all you are going to do is complain about my personal preference for Westernkind. Entitled prick.
Posted by braindeadboxer
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Member since Nov 2011
8742 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:55 pm to
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And why is that not racist?


It’s not because we’d take a black native Icelander over an Indian for sure...
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