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Opinions on the legality of this work-related situation.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:44 pm
Cliff's notes:
Female cashier sold a guy $1300 in cigarettes - guy used a stolen credit card.
Pakistani owned business - family from New Jersey.
Owner telling her she owes them $1300.
She believes she owes this and it trying to work out a payment arrangement.
I told her to get it in writing - why she owes them $1300 and what payment plan they suggest.
She understands that they're basically telling her to pay for the merchandise or lose her job. I told her to get everything in writing before she pays them a dime.
Opinions?
Female cashier sold a guy $1300 in cigarettes - guy used a stolen credit card.
Pakistani owned business - family from New Jersey.
Owner telling her she owes them $1300.
She believes she owes this and it trying to work out a payment arrangement.
I told her to get it in writing - why she owes them $1300 and what payment plan they suggest.
She understands that they're basically telling her to pay for the merchandise or lose her job. I told her to get everything in writing before she pays them a dime.
Opinions?
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:45 pm to LSU1NSEC
She doesn't owe shite but she might lose her job.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:47 pm to LSU1NSEC
quote:Shitty situation. If she followed protocol for her job then she's not liable for a damned thing. However, if she didn't follow the appropriate procedures associated with a credit card purchase (asking for identification for example) then she may be asked to pay it back or lose her job. I'd say frick you anyway and leave
Female cashier sold a guy $1300 in cigarettes - guy used a stolen credit card.
Pakistani owned business - family from New Jersey.
Owner telling her she owes them $1300.
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:52 pm to ForeverLSU02
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sold a guy $1300 in cigarettes
Sounds suspicious. That's at least twenty cartons. Why didn't that raise her eyebrows a little? Is that a standard sale for this store? Does she have any kind of relationship with the purchaser?
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:56 pm to JudgeHolden
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Sounds suspicious. That's at least twenty cartons. Why didn't that raise her eyebrows a little? Is that a standard sale for this store? Does she have any kind of relationship with the purchaser?
I don't have all the facts about the story. But they do make large sales of cigarettes on occasion from what I've heard. She told me that she conducted the transaction IAW everything they've trained her to do regarding credit card sales.
I basically told her that if she was truly liable for the amount the store owners should have no problem putting everything in writing - which I'm guessing they won't do.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:58 pm to LSU1NSEC
Does she make that much more than the average cashier that she can't just go work somewhere else?
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:08 pm to Murray
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Does she make that much more than the average cashier that she can't just go work somewhere else?
Think she makes minimum wage. Not sure what her employment options are at this point. The Pakistani family put her up in a cheap motel $500/month rent. I've been sort of worried about the whole situation for a while now with all the shady stuff going on. She does have family in the area and she has a son in Colorado. I imagine she has a few options.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:10 pm to LSU1NSEC
total bullshite. the cc company should reverse the charge. tell her to talk to an attorney and quit
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:11 pm to LSU1NSEC
I'll be damned if I'd give Pakistanis $1300 for the privilege of continuing to work for minimum wage in their store.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:12 pm to LSU1NSEC
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Think she makes minimum wage. Not sure what her employment options are at this point. The Pakistani family put her up in a cheap motel $500/month rent. I've been sort of worried about the whole situation for a while now with all the shady stuff going on. She does have family in the area and she has a son in Colorado. I imagine she has a few options.
Aw geez man.. So its the affordable living arrangements that's the problem here.
Maybe she can begin looking for a new place to live and in the meantime, make the payment arrangement(DON'T SIGN ANYTHING) for a very small amount per month. Once she finds a place to move, stiff them for the balance and go work at Walmart or something.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:12 pm to TomballTiger
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total bullshite. the cc company should reverse the charge. tell her to talk to an attorney and quit
that's basically what I told her. If she is truly liable for the amount then the owners should have no problem putting it all in writing.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:13 pm to TomballTiger
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the cc company should reverse the charge. tell her to talk to an attorney and quit
But she works for the retailer. The owner of the stolen card isn't on the hook for the $1,300 but wouldn't the store lose the money they were fraudently paid? Not sure how that works.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:15 pm to Murray
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Aw geez man.. So its the affordable living arrangements that's the problem here.
Maybe she can begin looking for a new place to live and in the meantime, make the payment arrangement(DON'T SIGN ANYTHING) for a very small amount per month. Once she finds a place to move, stiff them for the balance and go work at Walmart or something.
the motel arrangement is just temporary from what I understand but it raises a big red flag in my mind with some of the stuff going on these days.
I don't think she's freaking out about it though - but she sounded mildly concerned when I talked to her a few hours ago.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:20 pm to LSU1NSEC
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the motel arrangement is just temporary from what I understand but it raises a big red flag in my mind with some of the stuff going on these days. I don't think she's freaking out about it though - but she sounded mildly concerned when I talked to her a few hours ago.
Gotcha. Well, as far as the legality goes, I would think she is not legally obligated to reimburse them for their loss unless she signed some contract stating such when she was hired. Which I seriously doubt.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:24 pm to LSU1NSEC
$1300 of cigarettes? Someone is in on the cigarette smuggling black market here in NYC. A pack will run you $13-15. Get bulk prices, make a killing.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:27 pm to Murray
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Gotcha. Well, as far as the legality goes, I would think she is not legally obligated to reimburse them for their loss unless she signed some contract stating such when she was hired. Which I seriously doubt.
Pretty sure what's really going on here is the owners are trying to work this deal under the table with nothing in writing. She's talking to them about only being liable for the wholesale value of the cigs - not the retail $1300. I'll be talking to her again next few days. Will stress to her the importance of getting this all in writing.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:27 pm to LSU1NSEC
I don't know anything about the legality, but no way I would pay that. That doesn't sound right at all.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:31 pm to NYNolaguy1
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$1300 of cigarettes? Someone is in on the cigarette smuggling black market here in NYC. A pack will run you $13-15. Get bulk prices, make a killing.
the guy who made the fraudulent purchase is from New York from what I understand. They have video tape of him but haven't caught him yet - at least they hadn't caught him as of this morning. He's working Louisiana and probably Texas right now.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:34 pm to LSU1NSEC
quote:
Owner telling her she owes them $1300
quote:
The Pakistani family put her up in a cheap motel $500/month rent.
Sounds like their trying to lock her in with some debt.
She'll be a sex slave in 6 months if they have their way.
Pakistani Pimp
Posted on 7/3/14 at 1:37 pm to Shexter
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Sounds like their trying to lock her in with some debt.
She'll be a sex slave in 6 months if they have their way.
Pakistani Pimp
yep, red flags flying for sure
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