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AP: SEC teams' penalties for drugs not created equally

Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:19 am
Posted by Big Bam
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:19 am
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MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) -- Players testing positive for marijuana in the mighty Southeastern Conference do not face the one-year suspension that comes from getting busted by the NCAA.

In the most successful league of the BCS-era, players routinely get third, fourth and even fifth chances before they're booted from the team; failed drug tests administered by the NCAA result in the automatic suspension.

The finding comes from an Associated Press examination of the drug policies at 11 current members of the SEC. Vanderbilt, a private institution, declined to make its rules available.

All the SEC schools the AP looked at had far more lenient drug policies than the NCAA, though the penalties varied widely.

The NCAA conducts its own drug checks and leaves testing policies to the schools, but the governing body released a report in January saying that more than a quarter of college football players admitted in 2009 that they smoked marijuana in the previous year.

Just how many suspensions for recreational drug use are handed down in the SEC or any NCAA-affiliated conference is unknown because privacy rules prohibit schools from disclosing positive tests. They're not even required to tell the NCAA.

However, several SEC standouts have been in the news recently.

Former Auburn running back Mike Dyer testified in an April court case involving a teammate that he consistently smoked synthetic marijuana during his Tigers career, LSU star Tyrann Mathieu was suspended one game for violating the team's drug policy last year and Georgia All-America safety Bacarri Rambo could miss a game or two next season for failing a drug test.

Ole Miss athletic director Ross Bjork, who was hired in March, is hoping to strengthen his school's policy by the middle of the summer. Currently, a second positive test at Mississippi might simply mean the loss of free tickets for family and/or community service.

A third positive requires suspension for three games or events. Subsequent violations call for three games tacked onto that, though the athletic director and head coach can dismiss the athlete or opt not to renew the scholarship.

"We need to tighten it up quite a bit and come up with a good policy for everyone involved," Bjork said.

SEC Commissioner Mike Slive said a conference-wide standard has been discussed at least twice during his 10-year tenure but that league members have opted against one to this point.

Drug testing was briefly discussed at the SEC meetings this week in Destin, Fla. Presidents and athletic directors agree action needs to be taken and say it will be a priority at their meetings in October once they have gathered more conference-wide data.

In the meantime, schools are left to handle situations.

"The issue is to make sure that our institutional drug testing programs are adequate," Slive said before the meetings. "This is something that comes up on a regular basis."

Athletes at Georgia and Auburn who test positive for marijuana a second time face the prospect of losing half their season to suspension.

Arkansas and Florida, by comparison, suspend athletes for 10 percent of a season for a second positive.

The NCAA said 90 percent of Division I schools have their own drug-testing programs, while the governing body tests some 13,500 athletes a year. Mary Wilfert, the NCAA's associate director of health and safety, said the NCAA's testing is focused more on performance-enhancing drugs.

"The NCAA is not in the position to provide intervention throughout the year, but schools are," Wilfert said. She said schools rely on their own needs and philosophies to set their drug testing policies, which are "complementary" to those of the NCAA.

Wilfert said Football Bowl Subdivision teams are tested at least once, sometimes twice a year by the NCAA.

The SEC schools' policies focus more on
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Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:21 am to
I'm high right now...
Posted by gatorhata9
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:28 am to
The thing with leaving it up to the schools is that some coaches won't even test at all or test only those they know or think they know are not using. It should be NCAA administered and punishments should be the same everywhere.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:28 am to
Smoking marijuana is a bad thing? The good stuff I mean.
This post was edited on 6/2/12 at 11:29 am
Posted by CNB
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:28 am to
WG_Dawg any minute now
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:28 am to
SEC is just smarter. Every team has its share of drug users. Besides, aren't the drug policies set up and approved by the university and not just the athletic department?
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:34 am to
I'm not sure of the penalties for other schools but for UF they are just the minimum. They punishment can be more severe if the coach chooses to do so.

Here come the Urban comments and that's fine.

I think the penalties for being dumb enough to smoke weed and jeopardize your future should be greater.
Posted by CNB
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:36 am to
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I think the penalties for being dumb enough to smoke weed and jeopardize your future should be greater.


This is a whole other argument, but those penalties shouldn't be there in the first place. If it works for fricking cancer patients, how bad could it be? I know people on chemo that would kill themselves if they couldn't smoke afterwards.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:39 am to
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If it works for fricking cancer patients, how bad could it be? I know people on chemo that would kill themselves if they couldn't smoke afterwards.


Weed smoking in moderation would be a great violent crime fighter. I've never seen an angry guy with a doobie.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:41 am to
yea gotta agree here the punishments shouldn't be a big deal.

the coach should have complete control. If you are shitty and need to be processed then you can be processed for it while the good players can toke up.
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:43 am to
I didn't sign the paper, my coach required, saying I wouldn't smoke pot. I was so good, he let me play anyway.

I played high in all of my intramural games.

I wish I was high now.
Posted by KillianRussell
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:45 am to
If the rank and file of the student body are not tested, the athletes should not be tested either.

If a school chooses to suspend a player for smoking dope the reason why the kid is not playing should be left undisclosed.

Favoritism being what it is allows testing to process shitty players out of the program
This post was edited on 6/2/12 at 11:47 am
Posted by allin2010
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:52 am to
Strange article, synthetic weed was legal in Alabama. Not sure the point they were making.

Plus it is past time to legalize maryjane. Did Zenor watch refer madness.

Auburn, uGA, UK assess too strong a penalty. The
NCAA has it right to focus on performance enhancing drugs.
Posted by CNB
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:53 am to
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synthetic weed


Is very dangerous, and should be illegal. Meanwhile the safe real version is illegal
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:54 am to
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NCAA has it right to focus on performance enhancing drugs.
this should be the ncaa focus

while teams use the other to process bad players/ players that were good but drag the team down because they can't balance life and drugs
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:54 am to
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Former Auburn running back Mike Dyer testified in an April court case involving a teammate that he consistently smoked synthetic marijuana during his Tigers career, LSU star Tyrann Mathieu was suspended one game for violating the team's drug policy last year a


I think it's stupid to mention something that is/was legal in this article.


I also think they should drug test kids on academic scholarships too if they're going to force athletes to get drug tested.
Posted by TheFolker
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:56 am to
What are the drug testing policies at SEC schools for students on academic scholarship? Or members of the marching band? Or cheerleaders?

ETA: or yell leaders?
This post was edited on 6/2/12 at 11:58 am
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:59 am to
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I didn't sign the paper, my coach required, saying I wouldn't smoke pot. I was so good, he let me play anyway.



Is that you Randall "Pink" Floyd?
Posted by CNB
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:59 am to
Nice edit
Posted by dkreller
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Posted on 6/2/12 at 11:59 am to
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SEC teams' penalties for drugs not created equally

in other news....water is wet
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