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Why the Penalties are Too Harsh-A Legal Perspective
Posted on 3/27/12 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 3/27/12 at 6:36 pm
Interesting, this came up on my twitter feed.
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The NFL, unlike the legal system, doesn't have a set of penalties for different offenses. They are just making things up as they go along.
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These harsh penalties should be a concern whether you are a Saints fan or not. If the NFL commissioner can do this to the Saints, he can do this to any team (and their fans). From the looks of it, the purpose of punishment for the NFL looks to be vengeance not deterrence: Anger about not changing the bounty program in 2009 after a warning, and covering up the extent and duration of the bounty programs.
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3. Arbitrary, strong punishments bad for fans. The problem with vengeance instead of deterrence apparently being the model for NFL punishments is that it hurts NFL fans. Saints fans had nothing to do with the bounty program or cover-up.
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4. The investigation process and appeal. So what if Sean Payton thinks the punishment is too harsh or believes the NFL investigation was not as "conclusive" as the NFL says it was? The appeal goes to the Commissioner. How do you say that the punishment and investigation sucked to the guy who did the punishment and investigation?
This post was edited on 3/27/12 at 6:38 pm
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Posted on 3/27/12 at 6:41 pm to Hoodoo Man
I still don't understand why people don't see that this is as much a fan punishment as the organization. You can fine the hell out of the players and coaches, but ridiculous suspensions (which would likely cost the team victories) is shitting on the people that buy the tickets.
Posted on 3/27/12 at 8:31 pm to Hoodoo Man
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3. Arbitrary, strong punishments bad for fans. The problem with vengeance instead of deterrence apparently being the model for NFL punishments is that it hurts NFL fans. Saints fans had nothing to do with the bounty program or cover-up.
This is the one that gets me. Can anyone recall an incident where fans have been so negatively effected as this incident? Goodell's walking the plank with this matter.
Posted on 3/27/12 at 9:03 pm to Hoodoo Man
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4. The investigation process and appeal. So what if Sean Payton thinks the punishment is too harsh or believes the NFL investigation was not as "conclusive" as the NFL says it was? The appeal goes to the Commissioner. How do you say that the punishment and investigation sucked to the guy who did the punishment and investigation?
this is the one i have a problem with. In court when a convicted criminal goes to appeal they do not use the same jury that convicted him.
Posted on 3/27/12 at 9:54 pm to Bayou
I agree completely with this. As a member of the hospitality industry, I was preparing to launch a campaign to encourage all of my colleagues to call in sick Superbowl weekend, to ruin the NFL's party in the Saints' town, as a symbol of protest from the Saints' fanbase. Thankfully, the move to bring Parcells in for 2012 has helped me realize that the Saints are too smart to let Dumbell kneecap our season, no need to ruin the party, we will be celebrating another ring!
Posted on 3/28/12 at 10:08 am to TigerRanter
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I still don't understand why people don't see that this is as much a fan punishment as the organization. You can fine the hell out of the players and coaches, but ridiculous suspensions (which would likely cost the team victories) is shitting on the people that buy the tickets.
Been saying this since day one.
Posted on 3/28/12 at 10:32 am to Hoodoo Man
This ruling will eventually change the power of the commissioner. Take that to the bank. He has to much power and this ruling will change all of that in time. JMO.
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