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Why did alligator prices drop

Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:36 pm
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:36 pm
During this past season or at least that's what the show swamp people mentioned?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:38 pm to
Troy flooded da market wit all doze tree shakas from da yea befo
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
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68456 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:39 pm to
Lol I read that in Troy's voice
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:43 pm to
The price has been in the gutters for over 10 years now. People started selling guided hunts and it started becoming a novelty more than a trappers market.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:44 pm to
Well that makes sense
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:00 pm to
Charging people to come run lines with you used to be illegal. Not sure if it still is, but that helped screw the market all up. People were bidding 70%+ for state tags, meaning they would pay the state 70% of hide profits while they were making their money off of the people they brought on the "guided hunts." The people actually trapping for money were bidding in the 30's and couldn't compete. It got to where people started doing it more for fun than money and then out comes swamp people, and it really went to zero after that.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 7:53 pm to
Publicity fricks everything up. 30 years ago, I was a mussel diver on The Tennessee River. There were only a few of us,and it was easy to make some really great money,doing something I enjoyed. Somebody talked to the wrong people one day though,and this news crew showed up at our main boat ramp asking questions.
Well a handful of dumbasses had to talk about all the money they were making.Next thing you know,the river was covered up with divers.

The market for shells got flooded pretty quick,and the shell population got raped,because the new guys were taking small shells.
I had to get a fricking real job
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 7:59 pm to
Supply and demand. There are now a frickton of gators everywhere. Everybody and their brother is catching gators.
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 8:29 pm to
You do that on the mighty Elk River baw?
Posted by Spankum
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

I was a mussel diver on The Tennessee River. There were only a few of us,and it was easy to make some really great money,doing something I enjoyed. Somebody talked to the wrong people one day though,and this news crew showed up at our main boat ramp asking questions. Well a handful of dumbasses had to talk about all the money they were making.Next thing you know,the river was covered up with divers. The market for shells got flooded pretty quick,and the shell population got raped,because the new guys were taking small shells.


that is a damn interesting story...I have never heard of such a thing.
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5646 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 8:54 pm to
I heard that the high end market demand is for smaller, blemish free hides which come from farm raised gators.

The only guy I know of who farms gators is ballin' so it makes sense.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 8:57 pm to
I know when I was involved in it, you got wayyy more $ per foot for a big alligator. The premium hide was under the bottom jaw and a big gator has a whole lot of it.

If you shot through that part or tore it the price went way down.
Posted by AP83
Cottonport
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 8:59 pm to
This is the reason the market dropped. Not so much bc of guided gator hunts. Farm raised gators are becoming more abundant and typically produced more unblemished hides.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27932 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:00 pm to
I went a little ways up in The Elk a few times,but I never did real well up in there.
I always did my best farther up the main river.
I always found it interesting though,hat as soon as you went into the mouth of The Elk, The shape and color of the shells would change,for the same species,and you would find a lot more of a type called a "3 ridge" shell. You could really tell the difference in just a couple of hundred yards.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 9:19 pm
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27932 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:09 pm to
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I have never heard of such a thing.


The Japanese use to buy certain shells from The Tennessee river,to make beads,for seeding cultured pearls,mother of pearl inlay,etc... I think now they have found a synthetic material to use.
The big shells "washboards" were bringing about $7.50/lb right before the end.
I have sold a single shell before that brought almost 40 bucks by itself.
Posted by Columbia
Land of the Yuppies
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:09 pm to
All I know is I have gator hunted for the past 4 years on the Pearl and MS river just to have something to do in the dog days and y'all can have that shite. That has to be the most pain in the arse hunting I've ever been a part of. Maybe if it was set up like LA gets to do it I'd like it more.
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

I was a mussel diver on The Tennessee River.


I met a guy years ago who was a mussel diver and he showed me some unbelievable Indian artitfacts that he had found on the bottom of the Tennessee River around Florence. He had a map that one of the Universities has done on the sites of Indian camps and burial mounds before Pickwick lake was flooded. He probably made more off his arrowheads than mussels.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27932 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:26 pm to
quote:


I met a guy years ago who was a mussel diver and he showed me some unbelievable Indian artitfacts that he had found on the bottom of the Tennessee River around Florence. He had a map that one of the Universities has done on the sites of Indian camps and burial mounds before Pickwick lake was flooded. He probably made more off his arrowheads than mussels.


Yeah, the artifacts were the gravy on top of all of it, that map he had.. we all had it, it was an archeological survey that was done for TVA.
It was damn good too.

The best stuff is still untouched though,because it's not underwater,and is in a super protected area.
The stuff that is underwater,is of really no value to archeologists,because they figure that it has been moved around by the river. You will still get in big trouble if you get caught bringing it out of the river though.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 9:59 pm
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27680 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:39 pm to
Gator skin luxury items aren't really in style right now. Late 80s and early 90s there was much more demand, especially from the euro market. In addition to that, there are more gators and more hunters. More supply, less demand...results in tanking prices.
Posted by cave canem
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:55 pm to
quote:

Gator skin luxury items aren't really in style right now. Late 80s and early 90s there was much more demand, especially from the euro market. In addition to that, there are more gators and more hunters. More supply, less demand...results in tanking prices.


Well if that is true anyone have any recs for a boot maker?
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