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re: Semi Auto pistol: Safety or No Safety
Posted on 6/26/12 at 1:35 pm to EMP40 LSU
Posted on 6/26/12 at 1:35 pm to EMP40 LSU
quote:This.
I think S&W did it best by making the same gun with an option of a safety, and they made the safety big enough to manipulate in a stressful situation.
Bottom line, it comes down to what you're comfortable with. If you're comfortable with no safety, fine. But if you're not, get one with a safety that is easily engaged...like the one on the M&P.
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 1:35 pm to AlxTgr
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Possibly the single dumbest and most dangerous line I've read on any forum.
Little piece of advice. You can have as many safeties as you want on any firearm. If someone doesn't know what they are doing and doesn't know how to handle a firearm they are going to get hurt. I have personally been around people at shooting ranges that misfire thinking a round was not chambered with pistols that have safety's. My whole point was is that a safety only gets you so far.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 1:40 pm to aVatiger
quote:
ib4kingranchcockedandlocked
You fricker I was coming to put that, even though I agree with him
Posted on 6/26/12 at 1:56 pm to Carson123987
quote:You're getting beat on this kind of thing far too often. Step it up!
You fricker I was coming to put that
Posted on 6/26/12 at 2:59 pm to Gekko
You are the safety. Everything else is a crutch for people who probably shouldn't be holding a weapon.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 3:06 pm to faxis
quote:Holy shite.
You are the safety. Everything else is a crutch for people who probably shouldn't be holding a weapon.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 3:16 pm to AlxTgr
I'm surprised Ad-Rock hasn't sued these people out of existence. Semi-auto with no safety = unreasonably dangerous per se.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 3:26 pm to Mung
Plaintiff lawyers everywhere are drooling.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 3:44 pm to AlxTgr
I am in the 'unchambered, safety on, no pointing it at something I don't intend to shoot, and no finger on the trigger' camp.
Too much shite can go wrong, and I don't feel comfortable enough around my pistol yet. I'll twirl a shotgun in my fingers all day while loaded and doing cartwheels, but not my pistol. Not yet.
Too much shite can go wrong, and I don't feel comfortable enough around my pistol yet. I'll twirl a shotgun in my fingers all day while loaded and doing cartwheels, but not my pistol. Not yet.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 3:49 pm to TulaneUVA
I like to just randomly pull on my triggers.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 3:56 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Holy shite.
You keep saying holy shite and responding to everyone that says that the shooter should be the safety with empty comments. Do you have anything to say, or are you waiting on back up? I'm not against having a safety. I own two pistols with them. Do you really just think that a safety solves everything? Is your mindset that a stupid shooter can have a firearm with a safety and suddenly the world is a safer place? If so you are an utter dipshit. Someone can flip off a safety on accident just as easy if not easier than pulling a trigger.
FWIW Faxis is right, from what I understand he is saying the same thing that I am just in a blunt way. A safety is a great thing to have, however it should not be the reason you purchase or don't purchase a weapon. Buy what you are comfortable with. If you don't trust yourself just because of a safety then maybe you should rethink owning that firearm.
This post was edited on 6/26/12 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:01 pm to fisherbm1112
quote:because it's an irresponsible thing to say. It's dangerous and fricking stupid.
You keep saying holy shite and responding to everyone that says that the shooter should be the safety with empty comments
quote:Did I say that? No. Your anger is misplaced.
Do you really just think that a safety solves everything?
quote:You just haven't paid attention, and yes, it is your fault. If you have no idea what unintended misuse is, i cannot help you.
Is your mindset that a stupid shooter can have a firearm with a safety and suddenly the world is a safer place?
quote:Oh please. I guess no safeties should exist then.
Someone can flip off a safety on accident just as easy if not easier than pulling a trigger.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:06 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
because it's an irresponsible thing to say. It's dangerous and fricking stupid.
A safety will save no more lives than proper instructions in handling and securing a firearm.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:09 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
because it's an irresponsible thing to say. It's dangerous and fricking stupid.
Wrong it is realistic. The gun fires by trigger pull with or without a safety, unless there is a catastrophic malfunction in which that weapon should be retired until tested by someone with the capacity to do so.
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Did I say that? No. Your anger is misplaced.
Not anger, realism. Your comments toward people with a different opinion on safety's as you shows that you are one sided and closed to other peoples thoughts on an issue.
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You just haven't paid attention, and yes, it is your fault. If you have no idea what unintended misuse is, i cannot help you.
This is wrong on so many levels. A safety is a great thing for many people like yourself that are uncomfortable around firearms. One of my carries has a safety, however that in no way means someone incapable should be handling it.
quote:
Oh please. I guess no safeties should exist then.
This is the one sided again. I am not saying they should not exist. You just haven't paid attention, and yes, it is your fault read my above post. Where does it suggest this?
This post was edited on 6/26/12 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:09 pm to kkille1lsu
quote:That's fine to say an all, but can you guarantee your gun will never be handled by anyone but you? I can't.
A safety will save no more lives than proper instructions in handling and securing a firearm.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:11 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
That's fine to say an all, but can you guarantee your gun will never be handled by anyone but you? I can't.
Maybe you are improperly storing your firearms then. Get a safe, lock said safe, keep the combination to yourself. Anyone that gets them is looking to do far worse than accidentally fire a round. If you are leaving your firearm unattended while they are out then you are irresponsible.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:14 pm to fisherbm1112
quote:I will never have a gun that stays locked up. It will be brought to camps. Brandished. Waived in the air. layed on benches. I have no issue with be called irresponsible. In any event, the safety is not for me.
If you are leaving your firearm unattended while they are out then you are irresponsible.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:16 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
That's fine to say an all, but can you guarantee your gun will never be handled by anyone but you? I can't.
quote:
I can't.
Why?
You don't secure them?
An individual/child that can manipulate a trigger can manipulate most safeties.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:23 pm to kkille1lsu
quote:I cannot see the future.
Why?
quote:Then let's get rid of them on all guns. You're seriously reaching here.
An individual/child that can manipulate a trigger can manipulate most safeties.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:23 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
I will never have a gun that stays locked up. It will be brought to camps. Brandished. Waived in the air. layed on benches. I have no issue with be called irresponsible. In any event, the safety is not for me.
Then you should rethink ownership. It is apparent that you should have no say in then argument since you don't even practice the most simple form of firearm responsibility you probably should not have any at all. When my weapons go to the camp and other places without a safe the ammunition is locked in a separate location especially with kids around. Call me crazy but I think a simple safety should be the least of your worries.
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