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Posted on 10/5/20 at 4:15 pm
Posted by 17theBears
Member since Apr 2012
6982 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 4:15 pm
What do you guys do for scent control when bow hunting? I know hunting downwind is key, and I was doing that last weekend but still got busted numerous times.

Hoping y'all can share some decent products and/or tips that have worked for y'all.
Posted by EveryoneGetsATrophy
Member since Nov 2017
2907 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 4:23 pm to
What type of woods are you hunting? Pine, oak, etc? I usually take some leaves or straw from the trees and put that in my bag that I keep only my outerwear in. I also chew gum as your breathe is one of the strongest scents that you emit.
Posted by Shaken not Stirred
Member since Jun 2020
576 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 4:39 pm to
Wash hunting clothes seperate after running a cleaning wash of just water and baking soda through the washer.
Air dry clothes and put in scent-free containers until getting to hunting woods. Dress at truck, change into rubber boots only when leaving truck for the woods.
Don't touch anything (shrubbery, limbs, trees on way to stand. Your oil on your hands leaves some of the strongest scent in the human body ( to a deer)
Hunt reasonably high for the situation. Will sometimes bring a small rake with me and drag it behind me the last 20-30 yds to the stand to mix any residual boot scent in with dirt/leaves.
Try not to touch the tree you climb with bare hands while setting up climber. Kick loose dirt around bottom of tree to help control any sweat, boot odor at base of tree. If cutting limbs on way up tree make sure they don't fall to ground. Stick them in climber and use as additional camo/break-up.
I wear a head covering to minimize my breath , but that will only work for a few hours until saturated. Luckily by then the thermals are usually pulling your scent up higher but occasionally I swap to a second mask and put the first in a zip-loc I bring along to minimize that smell.
Human breath is probably the one odor that gives away your position to 80 % of the deer that come from downwind....unless your a stinky bastage. Then they can smell you from up to 800 yds.... that's over a 1/3rd of a mile FWIW.

You'll never totally be scent-free, no matter what anyone says. The plan is to minimize it so that it is not enough to cause nearby deer to be overly alert and allow them to get within bow range before having any idea that you are there.

As for cover scents and such I once read hat the only difference to a deer's nose is that instead of smelling like a human you smell like a human with fox piss on your boots.
(edit...if hunting on a farm near cows/horses I will on occasion step through some cowpies or droppings to help cover my boot odor a bit, but thats a rarity.
Posted by Bawcephus
Member since Jul 2018
2747 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 4:53 pm to
Man, I ain't doing all that. That sounds like a job, not hunting.

You have two options.

1.
Hunt downwind. If you were still busted, you weren't downwind or it was swirling without you realizing.


2. Smoke all hunt. How many people here have paw paws that do that and still kill more deer than the scent control freaks?



Posted by Shaken not Stirred
Member since Jun 2020
576 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

still kill more deer than the scent control freaks?


Yeah...your probably right...what the hell would I know about it...



Posted by Bawcephus
Member since Jul 2018
2747 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 5:14 pm to
I'd be willing to bet that environmental factors, not all the prep you did, is the dominate factor.

But hey! You killed a nice deer and snapped some pics of others. You're an EXPERT now.



Posted by Shaken not Stirred
Member since Jun 2020
576 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

You're an EXPERT now.


Not at all chief.

But I have 4 Pope and Young's on my wall.
So I figure I might do something right every now and then.
Posted by Bawcephus
Member since Jul 2018
2747 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 6:55 pm to
This is the OB. I believe that respect should be used first and foremost.

So, in the spirit of that, I want to say that you aren't wrong in trying to minimize scent. I don't think you can just spray cologne and axe body spray and expect to consistently see/kill deer. But, ultimately good decision making on where to place your stand in relation to where you expect the deer to be is the most important thing an individual can do, bar none.

If walking in cow shite and putting branches in bags gives a hunter an edge, I guess I'll just have to do without.

And the fact that you felt the need to point to the fact that you have multiple "pope and young" bucks on the wall makes me question if you truly appreciate hunting or just enjoy the recognition it brings. Nobody like a braggert.

Plenty of big deer have been killed by beginners, dudes with enough money to buy one and moms in minivans. The "trophy" does not make the hunter. In fact, many of the most important lessons and knowledge are learned when you come home with an empty ice chest.



This post was edited on 10/5/20 at 6:57 pm
Posted by crankbait
Member since Feb 2008
11623 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

Wash hunting clothes seperate after running a cleaning wash of just water and baking soda through the washer.
Air dry clothes and put in scent-free containers until getting to hunting woods. Dress at truck, change into rubber boots only when leaving truck for the woods.
Don't touch anything (shrubbery, limbs, trees on way to stand. Your oil on your hands leaves some of the strongest scent in the human body ( to a deer)
Hunt reasonably high for the situation. Will sometimes bring a small rake with me and drag it behind me the last 20-30 yds to the stand to mix any residual boot scent in with dirt/leaves.
Try not to touch the tree you climb with bare hands while setting up climber. Kick loose dirt around bottom of tree to help control any sweat, boot odor at base of tree. If cutting limbs on way up tree make sure they don't fall to ground. Stick them in climber and use as additional camo/break-up.
I wear a head covering to minimize my breath , but that will only work for a few hours until saturated. Luckily by then the thermals are usually pulling your scent up higher but occasionally I swap to a second mask and put the first in a zip-loc I bring along to minimize that smell.
Human breath is probably the one odor that gives away your position to 80 % of the deer that come from downwind....unless your a stinky bastage. Then they can smell you from up to 800 yds.... that's over a 1/3rd of a mile FWIW.

You'll never totally be scent-free, no matter what anyone says. The plan is to minimize it so that it is not enough to cause nearby deer to be overly alert and allow them to get within bow range before having any idea that you are there.

As for cover scents and such I once read hat the only difference to a deer's nose is that instead of smelling like a human you smell like a human with fox piss on your boots.
(edit...if hunting on a farm near cows/horses I will on occasion step through some cowpies or droppings to help cover my boot odor a bit, but thats a rarity.


What in the frick
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6847 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 7:09 pm to
If I’m hunting with my children I bring a beer can and keep a near constant fire of pine straw and sticks going in it. If I’m by myself I might do that too, but I smoke all my clothes over a green fire to smoke em up real good. I kill a lot of shite too.
Posted by Shaken not Stirred
Member since Jun 2020
576 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

This is the OB. I believe that respect should be used first and foremost.

quote:

still kill more deer than the scent control freaks?
Maybe you should practice what you preach.


If you read the OP's post..

quote:

What do you guys do for scent control when bow hunting?

quote:

Hoping y'all can share some decent products and/or tips that have worked for y'all.


My first post was giving him some hints to help his bowhunting experience. Not trying to come across as a know-it-all or a braggart. It wasn't until you decided you wanted to be a smartass that I merely posted a few pics from my first hunt of the season this past Saturday.

The fact that I have killed a few nice one's means nothing exept for validating that the things I do, which some may consider excessive, better my crack at a wall mount, considering the fact that I actually hunt very normal areas and very few times due to work and family. It was to show that with some of these tips that have been succesful for me personally, maybe the OP can up his own chances at thumping one during bow season.

I concur with respectful opinions on the OB. It's what makes it a great place to visit, read and many times learn a thing or two. Lord knows I learn something new every time I log on.

Anyhow, I wish the best of luck to you and your stinky arse this season...hope you kill a big-un.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
11445 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

2. Smoke all hunt. How many people here have paw paws that do that and still kill more deer than the scent control freaks?


As a kid i remember a dude in our hunting club who smoked like a train. If you hunted a stand after him, days after, there was a pile of butts under the stand. Dude always killed as much, if not more deer than anyone else. I quit buying the scent stuff after scent blocker stuff got busted and just hunt the wind. I used to spray down, leave clothes wrapped in plastic, get dressed outside etc and since I quit that and hunt the wind I havent noticed any change.
Posted by halleburton
Member since Dec 2009
1519 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 8:38 pm to
Free and clear detergent, hunt the wind, and always carry a blunt. I occasionally spray down after getting out the truck.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17318 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

My first post was giving him some hints to help his bowhunting experience. Not trying to come across as a know-it-all or a braggart.


You really nailed it then.

Posting pics of deer at the base of your tree only highlights that you are just here to measure dicks and don’t actually understand what you’re lecturing about. Your scent is drifting over their heads in all but the most extreme thermals.

There is nothing you can do that will reliably beat a deer’s nose except hunt the wind. Anyone who says otherwise is selling or been sold something.
Posted by Shaken not Stirred
Member since Jun 2020
576 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

You'll never totally be scent-free, no matter what anyone says


I believe I already touched on this

Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13891 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 9:24 pm to
Play the wind, shoot from a long distance (rifle). I don’t do any of tha scent killer shite. Maximizing your time in the woods helps the most.
Posted by Shaken not Stirred
Member since Jun 2020
576 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

Posting pics of deer at the base of your tree only highlights that you are just here to measure dicks and don’t actually understand what you’re lecturing about. Your scent is drifting over their heads in all but the most extreme thermals.


FWIW EVERY single deer in those pics came from directly downwind of me within the first hour or so of daylight when the thermals haven’t started rising yet.

Not conjecture...... fact
Posted by Bawcephus
Member since Jul 2018
2747 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

I concur with respectful opinions on the OB. It's what makes it a great place to visit, read and many times learn a thing or two. Lord knows I learn something new every time I log on.

Anyhow, I wish the best of luck to you and your stinky arse this season...hope you kill a big-un.



I'll agree with this and hope to have more positive discussions if we inevitably cross paths in another Thread. If my response came across wrong, I assure you it wasn't meant that way. Written text is often a poor substitute for in person conversation.

Good luck to you as well.



As far as scent goes, I have come to believe that it doesn't matter WHAT the animal smells but how it interprets it, and if they perceive it as a THREAT.

Whether it be smoke, human odor, etc. etc....it's only an issue if they have connected that with humans. I think we can all agree smoke is a strong odor, but you'd be free to chimney it up if they don't think "human, run" when it hits their nostrils.

In fact, deer in my experience are curious creatures, and a foreign smell could bring them in to investigate.


This post was edited on 10/5/20 at 9:43 pm
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13891 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 9:50 pm to
quote:


FWIW EVERY single deer in those pics came from directly downwind of me within the first hour or so of daylight when the thermals haven’t started rising yet.

Not conjecture...
I believe you, I have had them, including mature bucks, do the same thing even when I was on the ground. Sometimes they walk all over me, other times the blow me out at 400 yds. I don’t use scent control products other than Miller light.
Posted by Shaken not Stirred
Member since Jun 2020
576 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

Written text is often a poor substitute for in person conversation.


Absolutely agree with this and everything you said in your last post.

I guess with respect to my earlier posts I failed to mention that my extreme approach is necessary on the little tract of land I hunt here in SC. It’s less than 10 acres of wooded oak flat that I have basically only one way in and out of due to leases on the other three sides. So through the years I have worked hard to minimize my education of the resident deer population. Having to skirt an overgrown cow pasture on my way in where I KNOW many deer are bedded has me walking in the dark without using a light and minimizing any and all strange noises to try and ensure a clean and quiet entry into the woods. Yet they still know they are being hunted after roughly 3 visits max. But it is what it is.

I’ve no doubt we’ll confer in other threads in the future and gladly look forward to your wisdom.

And if ever in the Greenville SC area first beers on me ;)
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