re: Private vs public water in tidal navigable waterways

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What is the LASC?

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LASC

Louisiana Sportsmens Coalition. A new 501c that has backing and traction to formulate a plan for access to flowing waters of the state of Louisiana. Get Louisiana more in line with what is done nationally, simply in the terms of recreational access to waters that are in fact navigable.

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Because the state issued the permits. If companies violated the terms, hold them to the fire.

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Every pipeline lease I've signed, and all the O&G leases I've seen, state that at the end of the term (usually when the well is P&Ad, or the pipeline ceases to transport product) the land will be restored to its previous state.

These are leases signed between private parties.

It seems to me that if a land owner doesn't care to hold the lessor to their agreement, that's their business. And with so much of coastal Louisiana held by absentee landowners, it's no surprise that they don't really care about what's happening on the surface, they bought it for the sub-surface rights.

BUT

It also seems to me that if a land owner makes (or is responsible for) hydrologic changes to their land that alter the drainage on my property, I could have a case against my neighbor.

This is how I see it shaking out, and the State really not having anything to do with it.

Mineral rights.

Years ago Louisiana Sportsman was a very good magazine and website (it was one of the only ones around) and when you subscribed to LAS you also became a member of CCA. Some people got on LAS and started talking nonsense about how all navigable waterways are public- meaning if you could float a boat in it, you should be able to fish it and hunt it (all this was of course not the way the law is written, but they kept on and kept on). Eventually this group got mad because CCA would not step in and tackle this issue. When CCA didnt tackle this issue LAS broke ties with CCA

I believe that was the beginning of the downward spiral for LAS.

Those people were passionate about it, but they were still very much in the wrong

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You are giving up your ownership rights. If that land ever does come back, you don't get it back.

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This is a fear that you need not foster. Noone would be giving up mineral or property rights, just the inability to exclude the public for waters that are in fact navigable.

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Where's this money going to come from?

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Where's this money going to come from?

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I don't know.

Navigable at 1812 usually means public, at least I means State ownership of minerals. Navigablility as in "i can paddle a pirogue through it after a 3" rain" is an entirely different animal, but it means a lot to folks that hunt backwaters, and fish private marsh.