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re: Opinions on Remington 700 Models

Posted on 12/16/11 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 12/16/11 at 3:41 pm to
At that price it is hard to beat a 700. I did not know that they could be had for that low. However, I am proposing that you take a look at the Tikka T3. I do not know exactly how much their blued composite goes for but I believe it's around $500. Comes with a great trigger, detachable magazine, and 3 shot MOA guarantee. Not a bad deal.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 3:42 pm to
My Vanguard is a damn nice gun btw.
Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
8804 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 3:44 pm to
I think I am going to expand the search a bit...

I just want a beater rifle...that can stay in the toolbox and I don't have to worry about it. This isn't an heirloom rifle search.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 3:47 pm to
Look at the vanguard even though some ppl don't like it.
Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
8804 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 3:50 pm to
I have a WBY MK V. I really like the rifle. I had kind of forgotten about the Vanguards....I will look at them for sure.
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 6:05 pm to
No time to really reply right now, but I'll be back. Both sammich and faxes have their points. If faxis is what he says he is, he's got the experience to have his opinion, IMHO of course. I like the 700. Wait, I love the 700. There are flaws with it though. There are flaws with all of them.
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 6:11 pm to
<200 yards, for the money, I buy the 700 in 308.
Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
8804 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 6:18 pm to
I fail to see anything wrong with the Rem 700. I like the Wby Vanguard, but they are twice as much. For the money, I can't see anything better out there.

Rem $340 with a scope. The Vanguard is $600 w/ Scope.
Tikka is $550 no scope. Browning X-Bolt $550. Mossberg 100ATR is $300 w/ scope.

IF it is a value gun that can shoot great inside 200 yds...then that is all I am looking for. I can loan it out, let people borrow it and never worry about what is going to happen to it...

Edit: 7mm Mag is cartridge I will likely purchase.
This post was edited on 12/16/11 at 6:20 pm
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 6:30 pm to
You're on the right track......uh oh. 7mag? Why? You're shooting<200.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10117 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 7:49 pm to
Nimble, I am slowly retracting my previous statements. I did not pay as much attention to the price bracket you wanted to stay within and got focused on a "budget rifle".

For what you're wanting a 700, especially with a scope, would do great. My thinking was that there are better budget rifles but of course, as you said, they are more.

I am posting from my phone and can't see the exact prices that you listed but once you add the trap door stock to the 700, aren't you in the range of the others listed? Also, not sure what brand scope comes on the 700 and it would prolly do fine with a .243 or .308 but that 7mm mag is gonna beat the shite outta it. It might hold, might not, so I personally do not give it much value. Would be hell to have to miss a deer to realize that it won't hold a zero.
Posted by DownSouthTiger
downsouth
Member since Jan 2005
2553 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 7:49 pm to
The 175 pound 8 pt that I just winched up in the tree in my backyard would swear to you how good the model 700 stainless steel .270 can shoot a just over 200 yards. Probably about the 30 th deer I have shot with it and I love it and for me it's plenty accurate shooting federal premium bts.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10117 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 7:54 pm to
DST, I agree. I will be taking my 700 in the woods with me tomorrow too. Due to me getting a new scope and not able to get proper height rings, my x-bolt gets to sit the bench. (Like an idiot, I removed my old Nikon thinking the new one would fit.)
But with all the companies producing new models of rifles within the last 5 years, it would be silly to not consider them for this purchase. I believe the 700s are great guns but I also believe you leave some features on the shelf with one.

Great job on your 8pt!
Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
8804 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 8:00 pm to
I am likely taking the scope off and replacing with that $150 3-9 Nikon. I think the Rem 700 rifle comes with a Bushnell maybe Burris.

The Weatherby comes with a Redfield.

As far as the 7mm Mag, I want to have the same ammo for everything. My father had someone hunting with us drop a .270 round into a 7mm once....ONCE.
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

As far as the 7mm Mag, I want to have the same ammo for everything. My father had someone hunting with us drop a .270 round into a 7mm once....ONCE.



Why only once? It'd do it again.

Never understood having more then one rifle in the same caliber, but whatever floats your boat.

FTR, that 7mag will likely destroy that $150 Nikon as well. Not to mention spending the money on 7mag ammo when you have no intention of utilizing the Magnum part of the 7. For that range, a nice little 700 short action in 308 would be tits.
Posted by Tony Montana
Central
Member since Oct 2007
3493 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 9:41 pm to
The 700s are awesome. I have a remmy 700 sps tactical with the heavy barrel and a houge overmolded stock. I'm shooting 3" groups at 200 yards. Got a Bushnell 4600 elite tactical 6-24x50 sitting on top. Its a hell of a gun. You can't go wrong with a 700. However it does not matter if you get a $200 pawn shop rifle or a $10000 Barrett 50 Cal. Its the one pulling the trigger that makes the difference.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

Tikka T3



I love mine.
Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
8804 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 10:21 pm to

quote:

For that range, a nice little 700 short action in 308 would be tits.


I have a custom built 7mm-08 that rocks.

quote:

FTR, that 7mag will likely destroy that $150 Nikon as well.

Don't kill the dream...I don't want to scratch my "Dream" for reality...

I still like that $340 rifle deal, I may add some nice optics on it and live with having more money in this than I want.

Posted by faxis
La.
Member since Oct 2007
7773 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 12:03 am to
Sammich I was a bit abrupt before because I was walking out the door. Looking back at it I could have phrased that better. Yes, they do change a lot of the system out. The military does this with a lot of bid specs. They don't buy stock one's break them down and remove everything on them. The armorers tend to do little stuff with them to tighten them up and change out barrels following a spec on a certain number of rounds fired or they get a new one. They generally buy them with the barrels, stocks, optics etc as a system and they are constantly reviewing the spec. It's not really a direct correlation to how they purchase battle rifles beyond that simply because they don't buy nearly as many of them. These are specialty weapons. And Remington has plenty of competition for it but they continue to win the contract. The performance is usually beyond what the shooter can do.

The Tikka is a great rifle. Hell, there's a lot of them out there. Even the new Savages are good shooters out the box these days but that's got more to do with doing some basic things that everyone looking for accuracy ends up doing if it's not already done on the rifle they buy.

And I'll grant you that if you buy a 700 ADL or even the varmint, you are going to have to do some stuff to it for it to reach its potential. A lot of that has to do with the stocks being garbage. But it's garbage you can fix with epoxy and a little knowledge. Just did that with a 700 SPS Varmint and it sucked in groups down where you'd expect them to be. But I still don't like that stock. Fore end flexes till you stiffen it and can touch the barrel which is heinous bullshite and Remington ought to be ashamed.

But that new trigger they have on there is TOP NOTCH. Very clean break and handy external adjustment ability. And the bolt system is as squared as you're going to find without spending A LOT more money for custom work. And with the short action, it just has no real accuracy reducing flex to it that you're going to notice in the groups.

Yes, if you want to make a 700 as accurate as it can be, you will need to do some work. But that level of accuracy is beyond probably 99% of shooters out there. And yes, I love them so I'm biased. My dad has one that will stack bullets in the same hole as long as you want to do it. Literally. 10 shot groups in a hole that looks like it is probably 3, maybe 4. The smear campaign on them for the last couple years has annoyed the crap out of me because too many people believed it.

For the money, I just can't recommend them enough. But you're right, if you want to bring it to it's potential, buying it is only the start.
This post was edited on 12/17/11 at 12:06 am
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 12:24 am to
To you sir,
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 12:35 am to
I really like the 700s. I don't own one, but if I ever need another gun after my vanguard I may get one of these.
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