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Navigate 2,4D Granules for Watershield/Dollarbonnet Control on Pond
Posted on 7/28/18 at 9:48 am
Posted on 7/28/18 at 9:48 am
Our neighborhood is looking to clear watershield from around the dock area to make fishing off the dock feasible. We're probably too late for this year, but for next year, is it a good idea to use it as sort of a pre-emergent in the area? Does anyone have any experience or advice for using this product, specifically to knock back watershield?
This post was edited on 7/28/18 at 10:06 am
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Posted on 7/28/18 at 11:51 am to deeprig9
Throw some Karmex in there and call it’s day.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 12:07 pm to deeprig9
I'd try the tripoid carp route first. They're sterile so they die off, but they bulldoze pond vegetation.
Lots of good literature out there on how to properly do it
Lots of good literature out there on how to properly do it
Posted on 7/28/18 at 12:11 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Grass carp don’t eat watershield until it’s the last weed on the lake, ive been told.
Additionally, we want some of it... good habitat, we just want to clear the area around the fishing pier. Can’t train carp to eat some but not other.
Additionally, we want some of it... good habitat, we just want to clear the area around the fishing pier. Can’t train carp to eat some but not other.
This post was edited on 7/28/18 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 7/28/18 at 12:13 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Since karmex isn’t labeled for aquatic use, we cant use it.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 12:14 pm to deeprig9
Well, unless these plants grow from seed, I am not sure a pre-emerge is going to do it. Seems to me that you could treat with something now to control it. Beware that there are quite a few regulations surrounding chemicals in water areas. Might be a good one to hand off to a professional.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 12:18 pm to Spankum
It’s not a true pre-emergent, I use that term for lack of a better one. It is a systematic/systemic herbicide. Labeled for use in the way I described. I am looking for opinions from people who have some knowledge or experience with its effectiveness. We’ve done other aquatic herbicide in the past with poor results.
This post was edited on 7/28/18 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 7/28/18 at 1:35 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Where would one get carp?
Posted on 7/28/18 at 8:13 pm to fishbig
Posted on 7/28/18 at 9:39 pm to deeprig9
Deeprig you may not trust me in politics. But I do treat some peoples ponds up here for watershield.
There is not really a pre-emergent type chemical that works honestly.
I would have to say you need to just spot treat it as it comes up.
You can hit it with some glyophosate in a product like Shoreline defense. Or you can use diquat dibromide as a herbicide but might take multiple treatments.
Other than that I got nothing else that works.
There is not really a pre-emergent type chemical that works honestly.
I would have to say you need to just spot treat it as it comes up.
You can hit it with some glyophosate in a product like Shoreline defense. Or you can use diquat dibromide as a herbicide but might take multiple treatments.
Other than that I got nothing else that works.
Posted on 7/28/18 at 10:26 pm to NCdawgfan34
So Navigate 2,4D pellets won't suppress watershield?
Have you tried it, and it didn't work?
Have you tried it, and it didn't work?
Posted on 7/28/18 at 10:38 pm to deeprig9
Ahhh didn't understand your question. I haven't needed to use it personally. Yet I have a couple of buddies who came out of NCState and swear by it for controlling/eliminating watershield.
Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:21 am to deeprig9
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2,4D pellets won't suppress watershield?
were are you getting this from? I have so much grass in my pond, I could all most walk across it.
I was hopping my pond would dry up some to dig it bigger. Just not happening. Posted on 7/29/18 at 12:22 pm to deeprig9
i've used Renovate Max G on watershield successfully a few times. Very similar to navigate. It all depends on the flow in the pond and can b expensive.
How are you going to apply. Can be tricky from boat, smallest wake can wash off product and minimize effect.
I still get paid to do this, I use an aquatic glyphosate + surfactant + burner (diquat or other).
I can help u on rates if u want to go further. Just don't want to post public.
How are you going to apply. Can be tricky from boat, smallest wake can wash off product and minimize effect.
I still get paid to do this, I use an aquatic glyphosate + surfactant + burner (diquat or other).
I can help u on rates if u want to go further. Just don't want to post public.
This post was edited on 7/29/18 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 7/31/18 at 10:12 am to jellyhead
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i've used Renovate Max G on watershield successfully a few times. Very similar to navigate. It all depends on the flow in the pond and can b expensive.
How are you going to apply. Can be tricky from boat, smallest wake can wash off product and minimize effect.
I still get paid to do this, I use an aquatic glyphosate + surfactant + burner (diquat or other).
I can help u on rates if u want to go further. Just don't want to post public.
Sorry I missed this. Yes, I will take any info you can give me ! My junk email address is emaildawgrant@gmail.com
Renovate G does seem very similar to Navigate, sprinkled as granules. I would be applying from the dock itself and canoe if necessary. The X is the "spillway" so there is a tiny little bit of current here.
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 10:24 am
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