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re: Miss River Flood Thread 2016, river back on the rise again.......

Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:28 pm to
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Where u get your info?


It is all over social media.

[link=(Corps to open Bonnet Carré Spillway Sunday https://www.wwltv.com/story/news/2016/01/07/corps-open-bonnet-carr-spillway-sunday/78438562/ (Sent from WWL TV))]WWL [/link]
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:29 pm to
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The Atch River was at 7.5 feet when they opened the Morganza spillway on May 14, 2011. They put 170,000cfs through Morganza and the river got to 10.3 ft.

It will not get that high unless a whole lot more rain happens up north.

This flood is not as bad as 2011, 1973, or 1927.

Calm down!!


Shut up, Junior, the adults are having a discussion.

LC
Posted by ScottieP
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2004
1933 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

Shut up, Junior, the adults are having a discussion.


Could have fooled me.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

Could have fooled me.


"Fool" is accurate.

LC
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:43 pm to
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"the outside" as in the jack millers side of the levee? You won't see this water.

And you're in sorrel there, not pigeon.

You sound like you know what you're talking about until you try tell me where my camp is. I'm in Pigeon. I'm in the campground across the levee from the Pigeon landing. That's Pigeon 100%.
I find it hard to believe that this won't effect Grand River at all.
Does anyone else have info on how the lower grand will be effected and know what they are talking about?
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 8:46 pm
Posted by Voorhies7
Rounding 3rd
Member since Oct 2012
5591 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:47 pm to
I think you're very irresponsible with your statements. Modern man has never seen all 3 rivers this high this early. Your statements potentially put people in harms way.


This is not a dick measuring contest.


Some people post to help & get info/awareness out. Some people post to be condescending dicks.



How about getting with the program? Why don't you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:48 pm to
How would the water make it around the levee?
Posted by LSU2001
Cut Off, La.
Member since Nov 2007
2388 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:53 pm to
I used to have a camp south of Berthlot's store by the bridge. The biggest problem we ever had with flooding was when the Spillway was really high in 83 and we got a lot of rain in the Grand river basin. The water really had nowhere to go once it got down around bell river/Lake Palourde. The spillway water really didn't effect the Pigeon area, but because of the back up down river, the rain caused flooding much quicker.

I guess the answer is that opening Morganza shouldn't directly effect lower grand river/bell river but if there is any significant rain event Grand RIver will have a much tougher time draining the rain.
hope that helps

Edit to add, If they were to open the Sorrel Locks and leave them open to relieve pressure on the spillway levees (not likely) then spillway water would flow directly into Grand River at Sorrel.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 8:58 pm
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:54 pm to
It won't but there are locks that connect that waterway to the Mississippi and the spillway. I'm just having a hard time believing that it will have zero effect, but if so great.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 8:56 pm to
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LSU2001

That's exactly the answer I was looking and hoping for. Thank you.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
11019 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

How about getting with the program? Why don't you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?



Good luck with that. Apparently he's an engineer...
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4960 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:01 pm to
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You sound like you know what you're talking about until you try tell me where my camp is. I'm in Pigeon. I'm in the campground across the levee from the Pigeon landing. That's Pigeon 100%.
I find it hard to believe that this won't effect Grand River at all.
Does anyone else have info on how the lower grand will be effected and know what they are talking about?


Listen, dickbag. I was trying to help you. If you wanted to know about the LOWER grand river area, you possibly should have said that. Grand River is located across from Jack millers, goes to the levee, and crosses into the basin. But the point is still the same. The water will not back up from them opening Morganza. You can possibly have some back water slowing the outflow on a major rain event, but it won't back up. I've been down there since '85.
Posted by LSU2001
Cut Off, La.
Member since Nov 2007
2388 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:03 pm to
If you ever see the locks open completely to drain either the river directly at Port Allen or the Sorrel locks open to drain the spillway, we have a much, much bigger problem than is currently forecast. That would be a last ditch, desperation effort to save population centers at the expense of the less populated west side. That would devastate plaquemine,pierre part, hell even Thibodaux would probably flood in that scenario
Posted by LSU2001
Cut Off, La.
Member since Nov 2007
2388 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:14 pm to
I "been down there" since 80 but factually you are correct about the flooding of the spillway effecting grand river. The rest is bullshite. Grand River is a local name and the waterway actually runs from the Port Allen Lock all the way to Lake Palourde in Morgan City. If you look on Google Earth, the name of the waterway is listed as Port Allen Lock and the area directly across from Jack Millers is Bayou Gross Tete.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4960 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:24 pm to
The area north of this is the port Allen lock area, along the levee. This is where grand river hits the levee, west of Jack millers. As you can see, it says grand river. I'm also well aware of where bayou grosse tete is.

Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:32 pm to
What a condesinding POS you are. This thread is for information related to flooding. This isn't a place to show what an a-hole you can be by proving you know the difference between the "lower grand river area" and sorrel. Its all the same body of water.

LSU2001 I really appreciate your input on the LOWER GRAND RIVER AREA, lol. I'll sleep a little better tonight knowing that while it may get wet, my camp shouldn't flood due to this event.

This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 9:34 pm
Posted by LSU2001
Cut Off, La.
Member since Nov 2007
2388 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:33 pm to
mapThen google maps/earth has it mis-labled. I know we have always called the river Grand River from Jack millers all the way to Bell River. Regardless it's the same waterway
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 9:37 pm
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4960 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:50 pm to
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What a condesinding POS you are. This thread is for information related to flooding. This isn't a place to show what an a-hole you can be by proving you know the difference between the "lower grand river area" and sorrel. Its all the same body of water.


Hey man. I was just trying to give you info. I wasn't being condescending in my original post. Being as you just moved a camp down there, I was trying to tell you that the grand river area (where the grand river landing is), is closer to sorrel than pigeon. You'd be surprised how many folks get the landings confused. You responded by telling me I didn't know what I was talking about. There are a number of camps, on grand river, right by the levee there that people have on state land. I thought you may have been in one of those, being as you said you were on grand river. That is all.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4960 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:57 pm to
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mapThen google maps/earth has it mis-labled. I know we have always called the river Grand River from Jack millers all the way to Bell River. Regardless it's the same waterway


Yeah they do. It defaults to the largest body of known water in the area, and then defaults to that no matter what you zoom in on until it gets to another known portion. Every canal and ditch is labeled port Allen lock when you zoom in.

No harm, I was really just trying to help the guy out. But you are correct in that it is irrelevant since it is all connected.
Posted by foj1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
4254 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:57 pm to
Will you two crybabies take this shite to the OT board.
We are grownups here
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