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Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:09 pm to
I doubt very many people actually know
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:09 pm to
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I guess all the non farmers on here should start farming. They make it sound pretty cake.
Who knows? Maybe they find the current farming situation to be morally reprehensible.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:10 pm to
I'm late to this party but I don't hate farmers. Just don't believe in the poor, pitiful farmer hype when they have multiple tractors that cost as much as my house and everybody in their family drives a 30k+ vehicle
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:10 pm to
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Everyone defends welfare who receives it.
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I betcha most consider themselves to be small govt conservatives and bitch about welfare queens too.


Yeah,,, welfare queens and american farmers... one in the same.

Geeees, some of you fricking people got it all figured out dont you???

Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46288 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:11 pm to
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We're satisfied with 900 lbs/acre, but strive to get in that 1100-1250 range


Didn't know it was that high, when I drive by the fields it doesn't look like that much, but after I see the compressed bales I knew there had to be a fair amount. The new knowledge on the weight of the bales helps to put it in prospective...
Posted by Dodd
Member since Oct 2003
21121 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:12 pm to
With few exceptions, NELA Farmers meet most stereotypes discussed in this thread. Can't comment on other parts of the state or country.

I think the govt sees farming as a primary investment that cannot afford to fail as compared to a typical business.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:14 pm to
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Just don't believe in the poor, pitiful farmer hype when they have multiple tractors that cost as much as my house


Gotta new combine last year, it cost 300k.. actually it was 2 yrs old.
Rented a new tractor couple weeks ago bc it had a guidance system in it for laying perfect rows... 14 days the bill was 16k.. no subsides paid for that one... that had to in the form of a check.
You rich like that brah?
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
12266 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:14 pm to
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I doubt very many people actually know


Yeah, kinda my point.


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Didn't know it was that high, when I drive by the fields it doesn't look like that much, but after I see the compressed bales I knew there had to be a fair amount. The new knowledge on the weight of the bales helps to put it in prospective...



Yeah, it's impressive how tight you can pack it. Just FYI, the round modules wrapped in yellow plastic are about 4 bales apiece.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85475 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:14 pm to
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some of you fricking people got it all figured out dont you???


I don't understand how you do not understand how any small business owner that is not a farmer would be a bit bitter towards farmers receiving subsidies from the government.
Posted by willeaux
Member since Jan 2006
2980 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:15 pm to
Did y'all not pick up that the direct payments are gone after this year?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:15 pm to
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Yeah,,, welfare queens and american farmers... one in the same.



Business subsidization is more akin to social welfare (hybrid socialism)

If it improves your lifestyle, it's also individual welfare.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:15 pm to
Lee, 99.999 % of the time, I dont look at OT, so don't lump me in there with what you read over there.. I have stated repeatedly that i get tired of (maybe not you or anyone on here)THE poor farmers that are in Cabo for a month, etc., and you know exactly what i'm talkin' bout.
I also said nothing about the risk, other than anyone else in business is at risk.
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I cant speak for your balance sheet or anyone elses.
I said, I hated those pictures for you and me, but there is no difference in losing ones income from crop damage by Mother Nature and a BP oil spill and the general economy that nearly killed mine and many more businesses.
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Cost is too high.. everything from JD green, to seed, to chemical, to land rent, to deisel fuel.

We all have spiraling costs associated with doing business, whether it happens to be diesel fuel, motels, etc.. Is one more important than another?

Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:16 pm to


barry obama is subsidizing yall to go.
I see how it works now.
Posted by willeaux
Member since Jan 2006
2980 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:18 pm to
Giving it back to mickey. Hhmmmm, I bet they got some sweet tax breaks to build it there. Somebody start a thread.
Posted by faxis
La.
Member since Oct 2007
7773 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:18 pm to
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Everyone defends welfare who receives it. Theirs is just better than others, and not costing the taxpayer in their own eyes.

I betcha most consider themselves to be small govt conservatives and bitch about welfare queens too.


THIS.

I don't care what your justifications are, that's MY MONEY that's buying YOUR truck that was taken from me by the government and given to you. And you'll vote your pocketbook just like the rest of those who are on the government dole no matter the long term consequences for everyone else. Who did Iowa vote for? Yeah. Exactly.

BOOO HOOO People don't like us?!! Waaaaaa.

Get a real job or don't take our money and you might not feel that way. Or just drop the pretense that you aren't on the government dole. Some folks get an Obamaphone, some folks get an Obamatractor. That's you.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
12266 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:18 pm to
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Rented a new tractor couple weeks ago bc it had a guidance system in it for laying perfect rows... 14 days the bill was 16k


Not to pry in your business, but Case offered us a 600 hr lease for 27k/yr. New tractor with guidance. I think it was the 285 or 305 model.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85475 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:18 pm to
why are we asking for this thread to be deleted? can we not have a discussion about this? don't get so offended when people question your lively.
Posted by Dodd
Member since Oct 2003
21121 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:19 pm to
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Gotta new combine last year, it cost 300k.. actually it was 2 yrs old. Rented a new tractor couple weeks ago bc it had a guidance system in it for laying perfect rows... 14 days the bill was 16k.. no subsides paid for that one... that had to in the form of a check.

That tells me all I need to know. There is no way possible that farming can be a profit generator without assistance. Personally, I'd rather keep the beans USA, rather than Guatemalan. I'll throw a nickel out to help
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:20 pm to
b/c if you haven't farmed you really cannot understand one side. and if you have farmed you can't truly understand the other. only creates controversy. did not mean to brind OT style to the OB
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:21 pm to
geauxt, IDK many of those farmers, I honestly dont.

The ones I know are trying to do the best they can.
Get up early, make good decisions and hope at the end of the year you come out ahead.

To liken farmers to welfare recipents is retarded.
I know it and you know it.
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