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re: making molds for making plastic baits, what are the best products?
Posted on 3/22/18 at 7:56 pm to Homey the Clown
Posted on 3/22/18 at 7:56 pm to Homey the Clown
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im interested to see how yours come out
not much to it really from what i can see, the hard part is getting the molds set up. i never even realized you can take your old baits and recycle them. you just melt them down in microwave and pour them into a mold to make brand new baits again.
its much like cooking, you figure out the amount of glitter you want, to give it the right look you want, and then just repeat it the same way all the time.
check these videos out:
mold making - LINK
making plastic lures - LINK
remelting old plastics - LINK
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:11 pm to keakar
Remelting your plastics is ok. Remelting zoom’s may end up like frozen shrimp dropped in a fryer. Melted plastic splattered on bare skin sucks.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:21 am to keakar
I recycled many plastic worm/beetle spins this way.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:54 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
I enjoy making my own stuff when I can. Make my own in-line spinner baits and chatter baits and am very proud of the fish I catch on them.
But part of it is that I can make one of those for about $1.00 instead of the $5.00 or more they cost at the store, and mine have better components.
Making my own soft plastics has no appeal to me effort-wise, as I only use like 2 colors. And economically, how many do you need to make for it be cost effective?
That's just me though.
But part of it is that I can make one of those for about $1.00 instead of the $5.00 or more they cost at the store, and mine have better components.
Making my own soft plastics has no appeal to me effort-wise, as I only use like 2 colors. And economically, how many do you need to make for it be cost effective?
That's just me though.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:32 am to TheCurmudgeon
Here are some old photos.
I will try to find some more.
I will try to find some more.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:38 am to Janky
This was part of a shipment going to England.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:56 am to Janky
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Remelting zoom’s
why??? whats the issue with zooms?
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:06 am to keakar
Mass produced baits use cheaper plastic that have additives. They tend to pop and bubble while cooking. Plus, the bait will absorb water when using them. Adding water to hot plastic is like adding water to hot grease. Look around on tackleundeground and you will see it is not recommended.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:33 am to Homey the Clown
making baits is fun as hell and very rewarding...if you actually catch something with them
Posted on 3/23/18 at 12:53 pm to Janky
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Janky
thanks for the tip
i dont think i will be messing with and zoom because all i do is salt water so cocahoe minnows is all i can see myself messing with but i will try to remember this
sounds like fun/horror to find this out by accident
Posted on 3/23/18 at 1:04 pm to SportTiger1
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making baits is fun as hell and very rewarding...if you actually catch something with them
my damn cousin caught a 32" red yesterday and this comment makes me think of that
he got snagged on an oyster so i was bringing the boat over for him to get it off and when the boat hull with running trolling motor kicking up mud was literally 2ft away from the oyster clump in just 12" of water, this big damn red came swim right between the boat and oyster clump, did a quick turn and snagged it right off the oysters and took off with it.
he just decided that a bait, that was stuck and not moving, sitting lifeless on an oyster, he was going to eat that bait no matter what, and to hell with that boat hull with trolling motor boiling up mud getting in his way
that red fought him for about a good 5 minutes and snapped his pole in half but we still managed to get him netted. first thing out of his mouth was he needs to buy more black with chartreuse tails. i told him use the black with whit tails he had but he felt it mattered that much that he had to go get more. maybe hes right, maybe not ? i think white and chartreuse colors (it was a solid chartreuse not the translucent kind) look the same to fish but then maybe they dont?
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 3/23/18 at 1:12 pm to keakar
I used to make Sweet beaver baits before every company out there started making them, and reaction wasnt available at the major stores.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 1:17 pm to Janky
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Janky
i see how they do the top and bottoms different colors with the dual color pour setups, but how do you make the different colored tails?
the molds seem to be designed to pour in one direction only, so how do you pour different color tails?
do you cut the tails off and leave in mold? but then how can you pour the main color when the tail is blocking it so the air cant escape to let the new pour flow?
what am i missing? does it require a different kind of mold that you can fill from both ends?
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:02 pm to keakar
I had a tail mold made but you can pour it half way the cut them. Then stuff it back it the mold and pour the top. Cut it on an angle to get more surface area. I found some more pics and will post later.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:12 pm to TheCurmudgeon
We made spinner baits in my Industrial Arts Class (Kenilworth, Mr. Juneau), that were rather effective. We even made the molds we used using a Dremel Tool. I still have two of them as keepsakes.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 2:30 pm to Janky
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I had a tail mold made but you can pour it half way the cut them. Then stuff it back it the mold and pour the top. Cut it on an angle to get more surface area. I found some more pics and will post later.
I've always wondered about this as well. So the liquid body will adhere to the already hardened tail?
Posted on 3/23/18 at 3:01 pm to Janky
what im really not understanding is how to get it to stick together with such a tiny contact point like the paddle of a paddle tail bait when they arent poured at the same time. does new poured plastic bond that well to existing plastic?
im really interested to see what your mold looked like if you have a pic of that. was it something you pour from each end and have reliefs drilled to let the air out? im not understanding the process of making different colored tails obviously
im really interested to see what your mold looked like if you have a pic of that. was it something you pour from each end and have reliefs drilled to let the air out? im not understanding the process of making different colored tails obviously
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 3/23/18 at 3:57 pm to TigerBait2008
It was just a bunch of tails lined up in a two piece mold. I would pour the plastic in and it would harden. Take them out and cut to length. Then I would stick them in the swimbait mold, close then pour hot plastic. The hot plastic will adhere to the cold tail just fine. I did it with trick worms too.
Posted on 3/24/18 at 7:38 pm to Janky
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It was just a bunch of tails lined up in a two piece mold. I would pour the plastic in and it would harden. Take them out and cut to length. Then I would stick them in the swimbait mold, close then pour hot plastic. The hot plastic will adhere to the cold tail just fine. I did it with trick worms too.
well what confused me about it was thinking the tails would act like a cork and block air from leaving out the relief vents and thereby hold pressure, not letting the new plastic flow into the mold correctly. i hope you understand what i mean by saying that.
glad to know the old plastic and new plastic bond without issues. might be a "derp" question to "some" but having never fooled with it these questions are valid
and thank you for sharing what you know about all this stuff
This post was edited on 3/24/18 at 7:41 pm
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