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re: Lumber Prices - South Mississippi

Posted on 1/26/20 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 9:37 pm to
My forester won’t even bother with something that small unless it is a mature stand of timber so you’re lucky. My neighbor wanted some first thinning done on his place in a very small tract. The only way he would touch the neighbors is because I was doing the second thinning on mine. The prices are also calculated by how far it has to be trucked. We got $20/ton for chip n saw and $16/ton for pulpwood on pine trees. It’s been 5 years since so that’s the best I can remember.
This post was edited on 1/26/20 at 9:43 pm
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
12242 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 9:39 pm to
If you’re on dry land looking to sell timber and you’re in the middle of a very wet season that plays a large part in price like you said
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
12242 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

OP, if you do clear cut, make sure you have someone there all the time. Small operators will short change you. Not all, but some do. Oh, not a fan of clear cutting at all unless you are clearing the land all together.


There are a lot of crooks in the logging industry. They will steal you blind in a heartbeat.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19094 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:47 pm to
Is Marcell hauling the pulp wood?
Posted by Blah Blah Blah Dude
My 20 is in the 225
Member since Mar 2009
669 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 5:42 am to
He still stops to get him a cool pop every once in a while.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 5:49 am to
I don’t believe you have Ponderosa Pines. They’re out West.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 6:36 am to
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got $20/ton for chip n saw and $16/ton for pulpwood

Those are incredible prices. Those sound like Alabama prices. We haven't gotten those prices in 20 years in Mississippi. Plus last year a paper mill closed in LA and another in Arkansas. So that has even further depressed pulpwood prices. And the trade war has gutted the Red Oak market. So that's another strike.

So taken all together, and considering the OP is talking about 20 acres, then I think he's getting a very fair price. Like others have said: It's very hard to get a logger to come do 20 acres these days. Even harder to get quoted pay as cut prices, as opposed to lump sum.
Posted by yattan
Member since Nov 2013
897 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:30 am to
His reference to ponderosa pine was probably just a figure of speech. He wanted to leave a few nice pines on his land. But they are in jeopardy from logging damage from the elements from post logging threats. Also, the roots of trees are “networked” underground. Cutting big trees next to each other can kill a standing tree left. So, he should go ahead and get paid for his big trees. His biggest trees might be on his boundary line and would be left anyways. Sounds like he has a good track. If spring logging (wet time of year) is permissible maybe he should get another offer? Wet weather logging will chop up the soil to make a good seed bed. The ruts will eventually wash back over through time. Have the logger at the end of the job push or clear a road or trail to the back for access with the skidded. Some small loggers have no dozer. Stumpage and delivers prices have sucked for a long time. Now small pulp yards must chip or haul long distances to sell their product. Handling cost or higher. Good idea to have a state forester help him out.






Posted by CrusaderInfidel
Tishomingo
Member since Feb 2015
248 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 1:22 pm to
Yes sir, that sums it up. May not be a ponderosa pine but that’s what logger called them and I don’t have anything else to call them except for large canopy pines. The tract has 50-60 year old pines and oaks all through it. They’re only using a skidder to do the work and no dozer. They were doing a 80 acre tract down road and about to move. I’m adding more specific language to contract as suggested and appreciate the wise advice.
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