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re: help on an AR-15 build

Posted on 3/14/17 at 10:46 am to
Posted by stickloveslsu
mandeville, LA
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 10:46 am to
Is something like this good? pretty standard I assume.

LINK
Posted by Timmayy
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:14 am to
Yeep that's a pretty good option but can I suggest just paying a few more dollars and getting one of their mlok hand guards.
Posted by stickloveslsu
mandeville, LA
Member since May 2005
1640 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:28 am to
Which is what exactly? I'm new to this obviously.
Posted by Timmayy
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:44 am to
LINK

Something more along the lines of this. They have lots of other options as well if you bought the bolt carrier and charging handle separate but this wouldn't be a bad setup.
Posted by stickloveslsu
mandeville, LA
Member since May 2005
1640 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:03 pm to
what is the benefit of it?
Posted by Timmayy
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:13 pm to
Well the link I just posted has what is called a freefloated barrel. Meaning nothing rests on the barrel besides where it joins the upper receiver. This is generally more of accurate setup than a polymer handguard like the link you posted, as the hanguard rests and gets support from the barrel. Also this setup puts you pretty far ahead of the game in terms of adding accesories to your foregrip later on down the road. With the mlok handguard you can buy accessories from many different companies that have attachment devices specifically designed for that handrail. Such as angled foregrips, bumpstops, light attachments.
It's generally been the tradition to opt for a freefloated handrail over the polymer handrail and it has been an increasing trend for that hand rail to be mlok.
If you don't think the stainless barrel is your style they have nitride barrel options as well and I won't get into the differences between the two because it normaly ends in heated debates but I will say for you either will perform to much higher standards than you will ever call on them.
Posted by stickloveslsu
mandeville, LA
Member since May 2005
1640 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:31 pm to
so if i got an upper assembly, BCG, and charging handle separately, is that something a beginner like myself could put together?
Posted by Tactical Insertion
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:41 pm to
I had help with my first build, but it wasn't too hard. The way I see it as long as you get a complete upper everything else is cake.

I got a stripped lower, and then bought a kit from PSA that had a complete upper. The lower was relatively easy to assemble.

Example of kit: LINK

Posted by Timmayy
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 12:44 pm to
If you purchased those separately putting them together and taking them apart is part of general field stripping for cleaning so absolutely.

Go watch a video on how to clean an ar and you will see them disassemble an upper and lower and pull out the bcg and charging handle clean then reassemble. This is something you will be accustomed to doing if you clean your rifles after every trip.

If you get a them separately psa has their nickel boron bcg on sale for 88 dollars. It's not necessary at all and won't affect accuracy but they do cycle smoother and clean up 100x easier. Plus it looks cool. But if it's not worth the extra bucks no need to was just giving you a heads up
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted by stickloveslsu
mandeville, LA
Member since May 2005
1640 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:24 pm to
great info thanks for being so helpful, sir. Hand guards can be changed out, correct?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

so if i got an upper assembly, BCG, and charging handle separately, is that something a beginner like myself could put together?


if you cant do this, once you get them, you probably shouldnt own an AR

So dont be discouraged just because a setup doesnt come with them
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4056 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Hand guards can be changed out, correct?


Yes.

But... lets say you get an upper with handguard designed to fit into the delta ring and handguard cap that is behind the front sight gas block. You can get drop in replacement handguards, like the Magpul MOE series that will fit right in and allow you to mount accessories to the handguard. If you want to change out to a free floated handguard instead of another "drop in" handguard it can take some special tools and a little more know how.
Posted by Timmayy
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 1:58 pm to
For this reason for the couple extra bucks and the added benefits of the free floated hanguard I recomend just starting out with it from the beginning.
Posted by stickloveslsu
mandeville, LA
Member since May 2005
1640 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:03 pm to
that's what I'm thinking. If I am just going to end up changing things I may as well just buy it like that to start with.
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:07 pm to
I thought it was tougher to put together the lower than it was the upper
Posted by Timmayy
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:07 pm to
Good choice.
Posted by Timmayy
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:13 pm to
It can be more tricky and intricate but the upper required more specific tools. Specifically a torque wrench. But the upper is actualy very easy to assemble and maybe takes 15 minutes if you have the right tool. The lower while my necesarily hard is more detail oriented. Nether I would consider hard
Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
2528 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:29 pm to
OP, since you seem so new to the platform and appear to just be seeking a basic AR15, I would highly recommend you just go out and grab a Smith and Wesson M&P Sport II or a Ruger AR556. There are a plethora of dealers overstocked with them and you should be able to find one or the other for $500 online. These are both great starter rifles that you can upgrade later as you get comfortable with the platform. They are also US made and from companies that have decent quality control and stand behind their products. Not all of the things in the last sentence are true about the uppers linked in this thread. Save yourself the headache and get something that is going to work out of the box this time around.
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4056 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

It can be more tricky and intricate but the upper required more specific tools. Specifically a torque wrench. But the upper is actualy very easy to assemble and maybe takes 15 minutes if you have the right tool. The lower while my necesarily hard is more detail oriented. Nether I would consider hard



This. Doing an upper is all about having the right tools. Not just a torque wrench. But you have to have a barrel nut wrench one for the standard AR15 barrel nut then the free float handguard could have it's own specific tool it needs to be install. Then you need a good vise and vise block. Most people have everything they need to put together a lower in their tool box already (assuming they own basic hand tools).
Posted by stickloveslsu
mandeville, LA
Member since May 2005
1640 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:36 pm to
I already have a lower. Ordered it yesterday. May as well keep going and get a decent upper for it. That was my plan all along.
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