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Flower Bed Advice

Posted on 3/4/12 at 7:05 pm
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
6956 posts
Posted on 3/4/12 at 7:05 pm
Im looking to plant something with very little maintenance that can live through the winter. I'm guessing something green is the route to go here. I don't know shite about plants/flowers. I want my flowe bed infront of my house to look decent this year. I've had my house for 2 years and never fooled with it and it looks like shite.

What steps do I need to take to prep it? Do I need to buy soil? Someone walk me through the steps here. And what kind of plants? I also don't want sega palms (sp?) I figured I would get more serious answers here rather than the OT. Thanks.





Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46380 posts
Posted on 3/4/12 at 7:16 pm to
Start with some spray paint and lay out the flower bed, dig out the grass, put in a boarder to keep out the grass, bring in bulk soil and fill in the bed, plant then mulch. Don't worry about the plants yet get the back breaking work done, plants will come in time.
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
6956 posts
Posted on 3/4/12 at 7:20 pm to
Thanks for the advice. Any suggestions on type of soil and plants? Looking to hopefully get this all done tomorrow while I'm off. Starting a 6 week turnaround Tuesday. Thanks.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17887 posts
Posted on 3/4/12 at 7:24 pm to
Outline your bed, add some curves, spray with roundup, wait a week, dig the dead grass OuT, till the dirt, add some garden soil and till, build up bed about 12 inches, add some easy shrubs like indian Hawthorne, witch hazel, with a taller item like a sweet olive, add mulch
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 3/4/12 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

Start with some spray paint and lay out the flower bed, dig out the grass, put in a boarder to keep out the grass, bring in bulk soil and fill in the bed, plant then mulch. Don't worry about the plants yet get the back breaking work done, plants will come in time.



I agree with this. Build your beds first, plant then mulch.

Some plants to consider that look nice but a very low maintenance are mini camellias sasanqua (nice flower from Thanksgiving to Christmas), andorra juniper (turns redbrown in the fall/winter) and the hawthorne (make a white or pink small flower in the spring, down side is the deer love them).

Another plant to consider is the knockout rose. These require slightly a little more maintenance (fertilizer and trimming 2X a year) than the plants I listed above.
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
6956 posts
Posted on 3/4/12 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

Outline your bed, add some curves, spray with roundup, wait a week, dig the dead grass OuT, till the dirt, add some garden soil and till, build up bed about 12 inches, add some easy shrubs like indian Hawthorne, witch hazel, with a taller item like a sweet olive, add mulch


That's what I was looking for. The bed is already outlined, hard to tell in the pics, but it does need to be redone.
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
6956 posts
Posted on 3/4/12 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

Another plant to consider is the knockout rose. These require slightly a little more maintenance (fertilizer and trimming 2X a year) than the plants I listed above.


That's not too bad. I think thats something I can handle lol. I appreciate all of the advice. Now I got to find someone with a tiller. Hopefully my dad has one.
This post was edited on 3/4/12 at 7:30 pm
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46380 posts
Posted on 3/4/12 at 7:30 pm to
The plants can be laid quickly in loose soil, if you have a truck go to a nursery and get bulk garden soil. Mound the soil to make a little hill. Take a picture of your layout and ask for recommendations at the nursery. Something evergreen like and Indian hawthorn might be a good choice. It is just a short shrub that stays green year round. Make the beds decent size mulch heavy to prevent weeds IMHO It looks good to have a good bit of mulch showing
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12502 posts
Posted on 3/4/12 at 7:32 pm to
I like the spray paint idea, but man...put some curves in it, and make it a little bigger. Remember, plants get bigger, so leave space between. What I would do in that second picture is this:

Starting at that left corner of the porch, I'd walk out diagonally about 10' and paint a spot. Then I'd walk to the house about 6' to the left of the porch, and put another spot. Then I'd walk over about 5' in front of that 'bush' on the left and put another spot. Then I'd walk over to the sidewalk about 9' from the porch and put another spot. Then, using sweeping curves, I'd play connect the dots with the paint. THEN I'd round up everything INSIDE the paint, let it die, then dig it out. Get some soil mix and raise it up a bit, then plant Indian Hawthorne (white) about 3-4' apart in front of the porch. If you connect the dots properly, you should have room for a Crepe Myrtle off the corner of the porch. Plant it closer to the yard than the porch. Use the space around it to plant Aztec Grass or Varigated Liriope. You'd have room at the sidewalk to leave an area for 'color' that could be replaced every spring and fall...stuff like petunias or whatever flowers your wife wants.

You won't ever have to do anything to this bed except MAYBE trim the Crepe Myrtle every January/February to keep it looking like a tree. Keep the 'suckers' off the trunk.

For a nominal fee, I'd be willing to take a road trip with a trailer load of all of the above and install it for you. Want irrigation and lighting too?
This post was edited on 3/4/12 at 7:35 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 3/4/12 at 7:32 pm to
From those pictures, you probably want to build up your bed one to two inches. As for beds next to your house, be carful not to build the beds up too high that will trap moisture between the flower bed and the slab of the house. Moisture near your house attacks termites.
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
38119 posts
Posted on 3/4/12 at 7:35 pm to
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Now I got to find someone with a tiller.


You can rent a tiller at Home Depot.
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
6956 posts
Posted on 3/4/12 at 7:44 pm to
Y'all are the shite. Great advice everyone. Got my work cut out for me tomorrow. I know y'all recommend killing everything and waiting some time, but time is not on my side right now. Just gonna have to till it up and pull out what I can.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 3/4/12 at 8:02 pm to
We just dug everything up when we made ours, we didn't spray anything first.
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
4023 posts
Posted on 3/4/12 at 8:06 pm to
You might try firepower nandinas or gulf stream nandinas to add some color. The turn a bright red in the fall and winter, keep their leaves year round and are low maintenance.
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Try some lorepetalums as well. If you get a dwarf variety they are also low maintenance and the burgandy color really causes the green of the nandinas to pop. They will have small hot pink flowers in the spring and fall and really add color to your beds.

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I know a lot of people don't do it, but put landscape fabric down. It will really help prevent weeds and cut down on maintenance. When you do get weeds, they are much easier to pull if you have fabric down. It keeps the weeds from rooting into the ground.



The front row of shrubs in the picture above is made up of purple pixie lorepetalums and the middle row is gulf stream nandinas. If you are going to buy bagged mulch I would suggest Scott's color guard. The mulch in the picture had been down for 4 months and hadn't faded from its original color at all.
This post was edited on 3/4/12 at 8:19 pm
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12502 posts
Posted on 3/4/12 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

I know a lot of people don't do it, but put landscape fabric down. It will really help prevent weeds and cut down on maintenance.
I can't stand the stuff, because most weeds come from above via seeds. However, in this case with not killing the existing weeds/grass, I'd agree with putting it down.

Also love the lorapetalums. Not crazy about the firepower nandinas, but they do provide color without annuals. Same with lorapetalums. Lorapetalums go VERY well together with ornamental grasses like aztec or varigated liriope.
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