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re: Fishing with goldfish legal or illegal? ***Update in OP

Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:19 pm to
Posted by WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:19 pm to
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K.

I guess that means "No. I don't want to bet."
I'm not surprised that you didn't even want to hear the terms of the proposed wager.

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Oh and he calls spotted catfish flatheads too.

Are you trying to say he calls flatheads "spotted catfish"?

I will just leave this right here for you though.
Spotted catfish
Not that it matters.

Have a good night!

This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 8:24 pm
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:29 pm to
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Are you trying to say he calls flatheads "spotted catfish"?
Corrct. That is what everyone I know calls them- which includes a town on the river where my camp is. Don’t understand the wager cause I’m 100% correct in what I’m telling you. Time to lay this to rest though.

Want to give you the last word. When you do, one question, you ever fish for Catfish?


This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 8:31 pm
Posted by WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:33 pm to
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I would just use them and if you get checked just tell the game warden you read on Tigerdroppings that it should be OK. If he writes a ticket I would take this thread to the judge as evidence to get your charges dropped


Posted by LSChoupique
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:34 pm to
I, and everybody else I know, calls flatheads “spotted cats” too. Or “yellow cat”. Pretty common in south LA.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:36 pm to
Ops are spots.

This is well known.

If you say you gave a chest full of spots and open up a chest of channels people are going to assume you have never caught one before
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:44 pm to
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What is commonly called a "spotted catfish" in the southeast U.S. is Ictalurus punctatus. The latin name actually means "spotted."
It is more widely referred to as a "channel cat."

No

Spotted cat is another name for flatheads. No one calls channel cats spotted cats despite the spots.
Posted by LSChoupique
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:46 pm to
Yup. Everybody knows channels are called “eel cats”. Whatever the heck that means...
Posted by WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:49 pm to
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That is what everyone I know calls them- which includes a town on the river where my camp is

I don't doubt this.
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I’m 100% correct in what I’m telling you.

We can wager on that.
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Don’t understand the wage

OK I will explain it to you, but first let me address this...
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you ever fish for Catfish?

I never target catfish, but I have caught many different species. The reason I don't target them, is that it doesn't seem to be much of a challenge. The only cats that I've encountered much difficulty catching on a hook are Orinoco Sailfins, Vermiculated Sailfins, and Suckermouth Catfish. I have caught them, just not with a hook and line.

Now, let me explain the wager to you.
Just provide a few links that clearly indicate where a flathead catfish (Pylodictis olivaris) is being called a "spotted catfish."
Keep in mind that I'm not asking for scientific evidence in a peer reviewed journal.
I will add a caveat that if the info you provide has photos, it should be rather easy to differentiate between the 3 main species of catfish.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:51 pm to
Well that’s new to me. But I will accept it. They aren’t called spots or spotted cars. I don’t care what Funk and Wagner has to say about it
Posted by WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:54 pm to
I'm not arguing that it doesn't happen. I'm sure it does.
I'm just saying that it's not correct.
In fact, look at photos of juvenile channel cats compared to photos of juvenile flathead catfish. The channel cats have spots, the flatheads have a mottled, cryptic color pattern.

ETA: It's kinda like people saying a fish has stripes when it has bars. It's a common mistake.
This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 8:56 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:06 pm to
It’s not a mistake. It is common vernacular used by all La outdoorsmen.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:08 pm to
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It's kinda like people saying a fish has stripes when it has bars. It's a common mistake.
so a striper is a bar fish?
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:25 pm to
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so a striper is a bar fish?
You are so confused. It's not unlike sac-au-lait. Spotted cat are flatheads. Channel cat are not spotted cats. It's that simple.
Posted by WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:28 pm to
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so a striper is a bar fish?


Bars are vertical, stripes are horizontal.

Referring to fish by common names can often lead to some confusion or misunderstanding.

Take for example Amia calva. Most on this board will call them chopique but there are many other common names...bowfin, grinnel, cypress trout, and get this...speckled cat!

ETA: take a look at this...

English language common names are bowfin, beaverfish, blackfish, cottonfish, cypress trout, freshwater dogfish, grindle, grinnel, John A. Grindle, lawyer, marshfish, scaled ling, speckled cat, and western mudfish. Choupique is a common name used in Louisiana that was derived from the Choctaw name for bowfin. Other common names include alcaraz (Spanish), amerikanischer schlammfisch (German), amia (Danish/Finnish), amie (French), choupique (Creole/French), choupiquel (French), dyndfisk (Danish), il’naya ryba (Russian), kahlhecht (Russian), kaproun obecný (Czech), mieklawka a. amia (Polish), poisson de marais (French), poisson-castor (French), and schlammfisch (German).
This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 9:33 pm
Posted by Ron Cheramie
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:56 am to
the vernacular here in Louisiana and especially south Louisiana would drive you nuts then

there are a lot of common names used for each fish

we are not talking accepted common names by academia but accepted by everyone here

you say you have a spotted cat down here it means a flathead or an opelousas or an op or a yellow cat

they even call mud cats poliwogs
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:03 am to
must be the same people that shoot hooded morganzas that can't get names of fish right.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:42 pm to
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they even call mud cats poliwogs
Yep
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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86437 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 4:09 pm to
I am going to start calling them hornpout.
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 4:38 pm to
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 6:41 pm to
I was watching videos of that Alabama lake at work yesterday with a co worker. Hes from east Texas and said they always used them growing up for big bass but the ones in that video are close to 1lb goldfish for bait.
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