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re: FFS and Bassmaster

Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:15 am to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86361 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 10:15 am to
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The first change Bassmaster should make is not letting someone catch a fish and drag it all over the lake in a livewell all day and then releasing it; catch and release after weighing.
Yup
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69372 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 2:07 pm to
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I don’t understand how FFS can be legal to use but you can’t have a net, use an A-rig, have a jet boat, troll, etc, etc. They are picking and choosing what is legal based off sponsorship it would seem.




All of those other changes were made for the "betterment of the competition". Not all of them were fair or even made sense. But they made them to keep their viewers , sponsors and competitors interested. The same thing will happen with FFS. In a way, it is like allowing the Major league to use aluminum or corked bats.

You mentioned A-rig and in a way, the FFS technique is a similar thing and will probably be handled in a similar way. The NPFL banned it and now they are getting some of the biggest names out there fishing their events and sponsors are starting to get on board over there. BASS will need to make a similar business decision


Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43886 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:41 pm to
I'd like to see a wide open league where you could do anything short of gill netting. Any kind of boat, as much electronics as you like, any technique, etc, etc. No live bait, no gill nets.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22339 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:01 am to
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This has to give the old veterans (Boomers) the red arse, when these "kids" keep winning everything.


Not really. It's very understandable. These guys start tournament fishing in high school and carry it onto college unless they go the Trey McKinney route. Young people are very tech savvy and at the peak of hand/eye coordination. I'm a boomer who now can identify bass with confidence. I can try to put the bait in mouth with very limited success. These dudes have that down.
But in watching as much bass fishing as I can on TV and on my laptop, I tire of watching them pan around and hunt for bass. Hackney stroked the bass on day 3 with a limit at 25 plus pounds by 9:00. But I knew without a doubt that all those whiz kids would catch up. And he found himself in 11th and finished after day 3. It's not a mystery who has the best chances. It's the best scopers.

Watch NPFL.
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3226 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:28 am to
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It's not a mystery who has the best chances. It's the best scopers.


And this is the problem in a nutshell.
They aren’t the best bass fisherman out there. They aren’t the most knowledgable or technique savy guys on the circuit.
But they are the best “video gamers”.

When Mckinney lost his livescope at Ray Roberts or whatever lake he was at, how many fish did he catch w/o it?
No scorable, IIRC.

The problem with livescope is it takes the magic out of the equation. There is no pulling up and wondering if the fish are there, or if they are the right fish, or if the hits are coming from hybrids/stripers/drum etc.

The scopers have replaced time on the water and years of honing fish-locating skills with “ let me whip around with this on high and chase down big uns.”

No magic honey holes/spots, no find the best set up for the ledge, no knowledge needed. Let me just throw everything at this 7/8lber on the screen until I get her pissed off enough to hit.

Want to know the difference in what livescope brings….. CONFIDENCE.
Scopers know the fish are there, or a hawg is in that tree or on that hump.
They don’t have to guess if the fish are there or not. Or waste half an hour on a ledge where a school isn’t currently using. So they have confidence( artificially through livescope) in knowing if/how big/how many fish are in a spot.

McKinney had a shite day when his scope went out because he lost his magic box that gave him “confidence” that the fish were there, big enough, whatever.

That’s the difference and THAT is why , without a scope, most of the youth movement in the Elites/Big Tour would not be winning shite without their “Playstations” on the bow.

But I digress…

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