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re: Fertilizing a pond?

Posted on 4/14/11 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by SCUBABlake
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 1:12 pm to
Could be.

tux, could y'all just get the electroshock survey done, but let me come out and watch? I've always wanted to see that IRL.

thanks.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 1:16 pm to
Now there's an idea!

I wasn't even aware they did such things.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 1:17 pm to
a lot goes into it other than just fertilizing...

forage, cover, water quality - if those 3 aren't in sync fertilzing really don't matter.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 1:18 pm to
call the LDWF.. they will come out and tell you what to do....
Posted by SCUBABlake
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 1:21 pm to
Do you fertilize the land around the pond now? The runoff might be your problem.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 1:22 pm to
Okay. I feel stupid. My husband just informed me that our pond is 1.75 acres. Dang sure doesn't look that big to me.
Posted by SCUBABlake
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 1:23 pm to
20 bass per acre then. Call it 40.

I'd take out 50-60 to begin with, if you decide to go that route.

Or, if restocking entirely (only if you're sure it isn't overpopulated) you'd do 1000 bluegill, 100 bass, sticking with your 10-1 ratio.

Check out this website for some good tips.
This post was edited on 4/14/11 at 1:24 pm
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 1:24 pm to
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Do you fertilize the land around the pond now?


No. In fact, when we bought the property 6 years ago it was horse pasture land around it. Hubby is letting it grow up in pines naturally, but we haven't fertilized at all.
Posted by geauxskeet
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 1:25 pm to
LINK

we used to sell a LOT of 11-37-0 liquid fertilizer to commercial farmers.
Posted by F Head
On a boat
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 2:02 pm to
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I may get someone to have a look from Mississippi State Ag since I'm in MS.


Good idea.

If you hit it with fertilizer you could get a bloom and eutrophic conditions. The fish will die off from oxygen depletion. That would set ya back big time.
Posted by F Head
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 2:04 pm to
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Hubby is letting it grow up in pines


Keep any levees clear of pines or you'll eventually have one die and lose the levee as the roots rot out and create major erosion problems. I speak from experience on that one.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 2:10 pm to
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Keep any levees clear of pines or you'll eventually have one die and lose the levee as the roots rot out and create major erosion problems. I speak from experience on that one.


Too "dam" late for that. The dam already had a couple of monster pines on it when we bought the place. I'm hoping they'll stay put until we get ready to sell.

Posted by F Head
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 2:14 pm to
I saw what you did there.

They will likely be fine but DON"T cut them down. BTW, we also had beavers get into a pond and they blew out the levee by digging under it.

I should write a book on how to mismanage a pond. Good luck.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 2:36 pm to
Do it. If your fertilize your 1/2 acre pond now, withing 2 years your pond will grow to at least an acre.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
17923 posts
Posted on 4/14/11 at 2:39 pm to
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Do it. If your fertilize your 1/2 acre pond now, withing 2 years your pond will grow to at least an acre.


Didn't you hear? It's grown to 1.75 acres just talking about fertilizing it on this thread.

Posted by Bayoudaddy
Haslet, TX.
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 2:47 pm to
Try this number 972-824-3986. They handle George Bush and also my brother-in-laws tanks, (ponds in La. ). Don't know if they go to Ms. though. All the bass in BIL tanks are in the 9 lb to larger size now.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 2:54 pm to
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Start taking bass out, at about a rate of 10-20 per year under 12" and over 18".


I don't know if taking out the bass would exactly solve their problem. To the OP, is it too many small bass or too many small bream or both? I'd think a severe bream reduction is in order first. At least the bass are attempting to keep the bream in check. The problem with too many little bream is that they can be small to worry about cleaning and eating them. It might take seining out a large number of fish but you have to get some room for your other fish to grow.

On a small pond, there is a limited number of fish the water will support. If the total is 1,000 pounds, you can either have 500 2lb fish, 1,000 one pound fish or 2,000 1/2lb fish, etc.

If the OP didn't stock the pond, I think it might be time to start fresh. Kill everything in the pond and restock it per the wildlife's guidelines.
Posted by SCUBABlake
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Posted on 4/14/11 at 2:56 pm to
That's why I said getting someone out there to look at it would be the best bet.

I was just giving general guidelines if they didn't want to go that route.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29775 posts
Posted on 4/14/11 at 3:01 pm to
Oh, I understand. It's just now clear which (or if all) fish are too small. Either it's too many bass eating all the forage or too many bream taking all the oxygen.
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