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re: AR 15: Do I need to register as SBR for 14.5” Barrel?

Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:31 am to
Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
Jigga City
Member since Dec 2016
1408 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:31 am to
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there is nothing a real stock could do better than the SBA3 brace does. it is funny it got brace status.



The only thing a real SBR does better is be 100% legal, brace is not a legal protection at all... the ATF technical letters carry no weight of law, they are just opinions on the interpretation of laws, they offer no legal protection, are subject to change, and are no defense in court.
Posted by Fachie
Magnolia
Member since Mar 2017
508 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 11:26 am to
Go see The Pickle at Buhler Ballistics. I use him a lot, but I am sure there are others in BR that can pin and weld.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 5:18 pm to
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The only thing a real SBR does better is be 100% legal, brace is not a legal protection at all... the ATF technical letters carry no weight of law, they are just opinions on the interpretation of laws, they offer no legal protection, are subject to change, and are no defense in court.

Yeah, it's probably only a matter of time before they get the bump stock treatment.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 6:51 pm to
Surely they’ll grandfather them
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92634 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:08 am to
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If I use a 14.5” barrel, do I need to register it as an SBR or use a pistol brace


If you permanently affix a muzzle device bringing the barrel length to at least 16", then no. And I wouldn't gamble on that - I would make it AT LEAST 16.1" so you don't even up in federal trouble with an overeager enforcement agent.

Otherwise, yes.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57995 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:23 am to
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the ATF technical letters carry no weight of law, they are just opinions on the interpretation of laws
well that sounds legal to me.
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they offer no legal protection, are subject to change, and are no defense in court.


an interpretation of the law by the enforcement agency sounds like a defense to me. But im no lawyer.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:38 am to
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If you permanently affix a muzzle device bringing the barrel length to at least 16", then no. And I wouldn't gamble on that - I would make it AT LEAST 16.1" so you don't even up in federal trouble with an overeager enforcement agent.

It can't be a regular A2 FH either because that's only 15.9".
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
39859 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:43 am to
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Yeah, it's probably only a matter of time before they get the bump stock treatment.


So, they'll remain legal?
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 5:58 pm to
I thought those stupid things got banned (sales, not possession)?
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