re: Animal rights campaigners outragedover cheerleader hunting pics

I read the graph wrong initially, so I had to go back and edit.

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Are all other things equal, though? What happened around 1987 when the graph clearly ticked upward? It looks like the growth rate demonstrated post-1987 is very similar to Zimbabwe.

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It'd be nice if the environmental conditions would have been noted, which I'm guessing they were in the original article, but not here. Zim added 58k elephants to Kenya's 20k from 89 to 11. At almost 3 to 1 ratio says to me Zim is doing something better.

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It'd be nice if the environmental conditions would have been noted, which I'm guessing they were in the original article, but not here.

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Was the article linked? I think I missed it.

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Zim added 58k elephants to Kenya's 20k from 89 to 11. At almost 3 to 1 ratio says to me Zim is doing something better.

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Quite possibly, which is why I want to see the chart prior to 1973. It looks like Zimbabwe has a head start on Kenya. I want the full story before giving that chart the weight others are.

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Zim added 58k elephants to Kenya's 20k from 89 to 11. At almost 3 to 1 ratio says to me Zim is doing something better.

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They also started with a larger breeding population. If you have 10 families, chances are they'll produce more offspring than 1 family.

Starting numbers don't matter because the populations still aren't reproducing in proportion to each other.

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Starting numbers don't matter because the populations still aren't reproducing in proportion to each other.

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You don't have enough information to support that statement. Like Boom Roasted said, you need to know what the Zimbabwe population did from a similar starting population. Also, ignoring all other stimulants is faulty. You can't assume all other things are equal unless you have a basis for such. Kenya went through several bouts of infighting that could have resulted in killed animals. That fighting also took resources away from enforcing poaching laws. Did Zimbabwe have similar issues?

Hopefully this picture is visible. It clearly shows that at similar population numbers, the growth rates are nearly identical.

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If the US didn't have such a hate for horse slaughter we could be eating it's cousin regularly. I have heard donkey steaks are good according to Andrew Zimmern

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horse slaughter is legal here again, but needs reform BADLY. its not killing them thats inhumane, its the shoving them into multi decked cattle trailers that are sized for calves and hauling them across country with broken limbs to one of the three processing plants thats inhumane.

From the looks of it Kenya isn't following the trend of Zimbabwe though.

Kenya

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horse slaughter is legal here again, but needs reform BADLY. its not killing them thats inhumane, its the shoving them into multi decked cattle trailers that are sized for calves and hauling them across country with broken limbs to one of the three processing plants thats inhumane.

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It's legal but funding for inspectors was pulled, which means no slaughter will occur.

Instead congress thinks it more humane to haul them to Mexico for slaughter in their plants.

Laws were put in place back when the video surfaced in California of the cull dairy slaughter house pushing a down cow that prohibit any animal who can't walk in on its own to be slaughtered.