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re: Pan Zhanle and the 100m Swim
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:26 pm to MoarKilometers
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:26 pm to MoarKilometers
Not from 18 to 19 it doesn’t which is why I pointed out the last year.
Also doesn’t explain how he shaved off .4 his previous record in just 6 months. That’s way outside the statistical norm as I pointed out.
But since you asked:
Dressel
2013 Juniors (17 yo) 49.06
2017 Worlds (21 yo) 47.17 (-1.89 4 yr gap; Pan -2.4 from 15 to 19 yo: a whole half second more with less developed muscles?)
2019 Worlds (23 yo) 46.96 (-.21 2 yrs)
2021 Tokyo Olympics 47.02 (+.06 2 yrs)
Dresser’s largest win at competitions where WRs are measured is .6 at an older age with more developed muscles. Pan won by twice that: 1.22.
Also doesn’t explain how he shaved off .4 his previous record in just 6 months. That’s way outside the statistical norm as I pointed out.
But since you asked:
Dressel
2013 Juniors (17 yo) 49.06
2017 Worlds (21 yo) 47.17 (-1.89 4 yr gap; Pan -2.4 from 15 to 19 yo: a whole half second more with less developed muscles?)
2019 Worlds (23 yo) 46.96 (-.21 2 yrs)
2021 Tokyo Olympics 47.02 (+.06 2 yrs)
Dresser’s largest win at competitions where WRs are measured is .6 at an older age with more developed muscles. Pan won by twice that: 1.22.
This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 9:52 pm
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Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:27 pm to MoarKilometers
Yes I would.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:54 pm to bluestem75
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Not from 18 to 19 it doesn’t which is why I pointed out the last year.
Let's check national rankings for Caeleb from 18 and 19 years old. 48.78 for 3rd in 2015 and 47.91 for 2nd in 2016. 0.87 drop is fine, but 0.94 is just too damn much?
Posted on 8/5/24 at 10:40 pm to MoarKilometers
You’ve sidestepped the margin of victory completely. How do you explain that Pan’s MOV was double that of Dressel’s while he was in his prime?
Dressel won most of his races within a realistic margin from the field. Not a full body length. Unheard of in the 100.
I pulled my stats from actual world competitions where WRs are measured. Where did you pull yours?
College swims are not a full 50m pool. They’re 25yd so athletes get more pushes off the wall which lowers their times. That’s why those records/stats are not kept alongside Olympic/World competitions. It’s also easier to lower times by getting double the pushes off the wall at turns.
Dressel won most of his races within a realistic margin from the field. Not a full body length. Unheard of in the 100.
I pulled my stats from actual world competitions where WRs are measured. Where did you pull yours?
College swims are not a full 50m pool. They’re 25yd so athletes get more pushes off the wall which lowers their times. That’s why those records/stats are not kept alongside Olympic/World competitions. It’s also easier to lower times by getting double the pushes off the wall at turns.
This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 8/5/24 at 10:49 pm to bluestem75
23 to 25 years old are too old for swimmers
Pan is 19 years. His improvement should be bigger
Pan is 19 years. His improvement should be bigger
Posted on 8/6/24 at 2:38 am to bluestem75
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I pulled my stats from actual world competitions where WRs are measured. Where did you pull yours?
The fact you say this shows how funny this conversation is. You can set world records at pretty much any sanctioned meet
even small semi local ones. I pulled my stats from world aquatics rankings for those respective years. First year cited was at us summer nationals, the other was the 2016 Olympics. quote:
College swims are not a full 50m pool. They’re 25yd so athletes get more pushes off the wall which lowers their times. That’s why those records/stats are not kept alongside Olympic/World competitions. It’s also easier to lower times by getting double the pushes off the wall at turns.
We use 25 yard pools because this America, it has frick all to do with to get more push offs. In a 100 it would actually be triple the turns, btw. The records aren't kept alongside the other records because they're American or ncaa records, set at different distances. At best only Liberia or Myanmar would use 25 yard pools. Why was this brought up in a doping thread?
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[quote]Dresser’s largest win at competitions where WRs are measured is .6 at an older age with more developed muscles. Pan won by twice that: 1.22.
Again, world records "are measured" at all sanctioned competitions
and I'm pretty sure dressel won 100 fly at 2019 world championships by over 1.1 seconds. Posted on 8/6/24 at 2:40 am to hager9123
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23 to 25 years old are too old for swimmers
Laughs in Anthony Ervin.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 3:34 am to bluestem75
The US women 4x4 beat the WR? Are they doping also? Michael Phelps beat so many WR. Dude was doping for sure. Usain Bolt was definitely doping.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 6:03 am to GeauxZone90
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The US women 4x4 beat the WR? Are they doping also? Michael Phelps beat so many WR. Dude was doping for sure.
Did they shatter their world record by almost half a second less than 9 months later while also beating the field by 1 whole second, in a race that is typically measured in 1/100’s or 1/1000’s of a second? Context matter comrade.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 11:56 am to MoarKilometers
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I'm pretty sure dressel won 100 fly at 2019 world championships by over 1.1 seconds.
He won by 0.12
From Wikipedia:
Name Nationality Time Notes
1st place, gold medalist(s) 4 Caeleb Dressel United States 46.96 NR
2nd place, silver medalist(s) 5 Kyle Chalmers Australia 47.08
This post was edited on 8/6/24 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 8/6/24 at 12:03 pm to bluestem75
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I'm pretty sure dressel won 100 fly
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2019 Worlds Men’s 100m Freestyle
Care to try again
Posted on 8/6/24 at 12:23 pm to MoarKilometers
To be frankly, I suspect Michael Phelps was doped.
He does not look like a 39 years old, more like 69 years old.
In the picture that he was holding his baby, his body looks terrible. What happened to those muscles?
As a world class athlete, he should look more energetic.
He does not look like a 39 years old, more like 69 years old.
In the picture that he was holding his baby, his body looks terrible. What happened to those muscles?
As a world class athlete, he should look more energetic.
This post was edited on 8/6/24 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 8/6/24 at 1:02 pm to hager9123
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To be frankly, I suspect Michael Phelps was doped.
To be frank, you might be more retarded than the pan doped crowd. Phelps volunteered for enhanced testing leading up to 08 games. Pan and Phelps have the same 0 positive tests, Phelps just has had his b samples hold up to time, with improved testing/detection methods.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 1:29 pm to MoarKilometers
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To be frank, you might be more retarded than the pan doped crowd.
Hahaha. Yeah. Agree.
Phelp a nice person. Just look too old. Maybe some people aging fast.
He also lost a lot muscles on the shoulder and breast. Hope he is fine.
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