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re: NOLA Judge removes drilling ban
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:27 pm to Commandeaux
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:27 pm to Commandeaux
autoworkers are highly unionized and generally demand a hell of a lot more in pay than the value that they add to the products, one of the main reasons that american cars are overpriced.
anyway, both examples (DWH and car accidents)are a result of human/operator error in a scenario that has been proven to be safe thousands of times over, so no i didnt emphasize your point
anyway, both examples (DWH and car accidents)are a result of human/operator error in a scenario that has been proven to be safe thousands of times over, so no i didnt emphasize your point
This post was edited on 6/22/10 at 2:30 pm
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Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:30 pm to bayoudude
Commando, those "entitled" oil industry employees, business owners, etc. are what comprise the vast majority of the south LA economy. destroying families' livelihoods goes beyond any entitlement angle.
if your home was going to be foreclosed on, you may have a slightly altered opinion.
if your home was going to be foreclosed on, you may have a slightly altered opinion.
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:33 pm to Commandeaux
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Millions of people lost their jobs last years and a majority are still unemployed. I doubt if anyone shed a tear. Like I sad, thousands of high paying blue-collar jobs left Detroit and no one gave a shite.
so, by all meas, let's replicate this scenario and economically destroy another region......BTW, this comes with the fishing industry dying as well.
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:34 pm to bayoudude
Can someone explain to me why the unemployed oil worker in South Louisiana is more important than an unemployed architect in Tulsa, or an uneployed nurse in Chicago, or a recently laid off teacher in Seattle. The answer is they are not. And these people didn't frick up their industry to the level of the gulf oil spill. Everyone I just mentioned is gonna have to go find another job. It's life. It happens. It happened to me. Having a job isn't a right. You can get laid off or fired at any time for almost anything.
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:36 pm to CharlesLSU
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so, by all meas, let's replicate this scenario and economically destroy another region......BTW, this comes with the fishing industry dying as well.
Not to mention a huge chunk of all marine fabrication in this country. I was speaking to an engineer at the USCG Marine Safety Center (MSC)that reviews drawings for all inspected vessels and was told that the area from Lake Charles to Mobile accounts for 90% of all new construction vessel reviews. East/West coast contributes very little to the work boat industry. With the very large shipyards pretty much strictly catering to military contracts.
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:38 pm to Commandeaux
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Thank you for emphasizing my point. What's worse: an industry making shitty cars or an industry causing the worst environmental disaster in US history. The auto workers deserve their jobs more than the oil workers, IMHO.
You're and idiot. For one it's not apples to apples, and secondly you can't have the auto industry without the oil industry. There will be a lot less people buying cars if we are almost 100% dependant on foreign oil and it's $7 a gallon at the pump.
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:38 pm to drtiger
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These oil workers WANT to work. And what they do powers our country. Guess you liked $4 gas
As a matter of fact, I would love $6 gas. The higher it is, the quicker we get serious about alternative energy. In 2006 when gas approached $4 a gallon, people started to get serious about alternative energy and fuel efficiency.
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:41 pm to Commandeaux
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In 2006 when gas approached $4 a gallon, people started to get serious about alternative energy and fuel efficiency.
no, genius. that's when the country realized that we better drill to stay in the game.
try again.
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:43 pm to Commandeaux
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The industry should be shut down until these companies come up with a viable response plan should it happen again
Should airflight after 9/11 been shut down until a viable response plan from the government was in place? Or is airflight some silly right?
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:44 pm to CajunZ81
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you can't have the auto industry without the oil industry.
This is the problem. You can't look past tomorrow. GM actually had a full electric car (EV-1) in the mid-2000's but they discontinued it because of pressure from big oil.
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:45 pm to Commandeaux
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GM actually had a full electric car (EV-1) in the mid-2000's but they discontinued it because of pressure from big oil.
did it have wooden tires? Was it unpainted? did it have glass radio knobs instead of plastic? Did it not have bearings?
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:46 pm to igoringa
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Should airflight after 9/11 been shut down until a viable response plan from the government was in place? Or is airflight some silly right?
Of course not, 9/11 wasn't caused by the airline industry. It was caused by terrorists.
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:46 pm to Commandeaux
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You can't look past tomorrow. GM actually had a full electric car (EV-1) in the mid-2000's but they discontinued it because of pressure from big oil.
Even if they had launched it anyway i suspect it would have been a failure. Americans in general expect performance and payload from their automobiles. Hard to swallow paying a premium for a vehicle that is lacking in the performance dept when compared to a similar gas vehicle while costing considerably more.
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:47 pm to Commandeaux
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As a matter of fact, I would love $6 gas. The higher it is, the quicker we get serious about alternative energy. In 2006 when gas approached $4 a gallon, people started to get serious about alternative energy and fuel efficiency.
You do realize most oil does not go to "gas" right.
Like a very small percentage actually goes to "gas". But keep your head in the sand. In fact you should do your part right now and stop using your computer, stop typing on that plastic keyboard, stop drinking out of that plastic water bottle, etc.....
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:48 pm to bayoudude
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Even if they had launched it anyway i suspect it would have been a failure. Americans in general expect performance and payload from their automobiles.
agree. and i'll be damned if i'm getting on a 747 that is electrically operated.
frick that.
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:49 pm to tigerdup07
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did it have wooden tires? Was it unpainted? did it have glass radio knobs instead of plastic? Did it not have bearings?
It sure did. Car components account for a small percentage oil consumption. If we have cars that run on alternative fuel, the oil used to make components will come from domestic oil that doesn't come from offshore drilling.
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:51 pm to bayoudude
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Even if they had launched it anyway i suspect it would have been a failure. Americans in general expect performance and payload from their automobiles. Hard to swallow paying a premium for a vehicle that is lacking in the performance dept when compared to a similar gas vehicle while costing considerably more.
So you're saying we can do it, but we just don't want to.
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:52 pm to Commandeaux
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Can someone explain to me why the unemployed oil worker in South Louisiana is more important than an unemployed architect in Tulsa, or an uneployed nurse in Chicago, or a recently laid off teacher in Seattle. The answer is they are not. And these people didn't frick up their industry to the level of the gulf oil spill. Everyone I just mentioned is gonna have to go find another job. It's life. It happens. It happened to me. Having a job isn't a right. You can get laid off or fired at any time for almost anything.
If you cannot see the difference between a private entity effectively being shut down by an arbitrary decision of government and thus having to lay people off vs your examples, then you are truly as stupid as you seem.
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:52 pm to Commandeaux
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Car components account for a small percentage oil consumption
paints and plastics are the number 1 market for crude oil.
Posted on 6/22/10 at 2:53 pm to Commandeaux
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Tell that shite to Michigan when the auto industry left for Mexico.
BMW went to South Carolina, Kia went to Georgia, Hyundai went to Alabama, Ford is in Ohio/Michigan/Missouri, GM is mianly in Ontario/Michigan/Georgia/Virginia/Indiana
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