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re: Look at the map and get yourselves togther...

Posted on 6/2/10 at 9:05 pm to
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/2/10 at 9:05 pm to
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Prove to me that this the end of the world then I will change my mind. I have no reason to believe everything will not be okay unless you can prove to me otherwise


wow

so, until the fisherman are allowed to fish the gulf again next year, you believe everything is ok? When their nets come-up empty or EPA testing shows high levels of toxins in gulf caught sealife, you'll concede and let everyone regress into sadness?

So, how well recieved do you think your argument would be to T-Boy in Grand Isle who's about to lose his boat and has done nothing else in his life to support his family?

You head-in-the-sad approach is fricking stupid. This isn't a religious debate, fact is the Gulf is being polluted with crude and toxic dispersants. Idiotic position you take.
This post was edited on 6/2/10 at 9:07 pm
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20843 posts
Posted on 6/2/10 at 10:09 pm to
Well just took another look and yep there is still thousands of crabs, shrimp, and bait fish trying to avoid getting eaten by the thousands of lemon, red, jacks and bonita fish and this is just right around my platform so I thinks its safe to say as of today the world is not over. So put your head back in your arse and STFU, when all the fish are dying or dead then come find me.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20843 posts
Posted on 6/2/10 at 10:14 pm to
1980 over 140 million gal spilled in the gulf from the IXTOC 1 well, flowed for over a year. Guess what the gulf survived.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20843 posts
Posted on 6/2/10 at 10:16 pm to
Here is a little info for all you end of the world idiots, if yall were right then pretty much every ocean in the world would be void of life.
https://oceanworld.tamu.edu/resources/oceanography-book/oilspills.htm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 6:37 am to
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so, until the fisherman are allowed to fish the gulf again next year, you believe everything is ok?


I wasnt wasnt aware that fishing was closed in the GOM unitl next year.

As a matter of fact, the Federal Closure was lifted this morning, so technically if fisherman wanted to go fishing in the Gulf they can go TODAY. There is still quite a bit of area that is still open. Facts

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So, how well recieved do you think your argument would be to T-Boy in Grand Isle who's about to lose his boat and has done nothing else in his life to support his family?


I have spoken to many fisherman, and most are working the spill right now making pretty good money....dont believe what you see on TV. The others are just doing what they have to do, until they get the all clear as most of the closers are for precautionary measures.

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You head-in-the-sad approach is fricking stupid


I am looking at the persent day reality of what we ae dealing with, I'm taking it day by day

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fact is the Gulf is being polluted with crude and toxic dispersants.


You're right, a portion of the GOM is

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Idiotic position you take.


Thanks, just because I'm not saying it the end of the world and life is over as we know I'm an idiot?? Nice.

Do you know how to read a map? I'm going to post this again for you. Look at the areas that have been effected. All I am saying is that we are lucky we dont see more red and orange. Not a lot a direct oil impact when you're looking at the big picture.

LINK


ETA: Let me be clear, I am not saying that everything IS okay, I realize what the potential effects COULD BE and i understand there are people scared because of the uncertainty. What I am saying is to relax and lets wait and see. I believe everything will be okay, I am am true believer that things are never as bad as they seem. Have a little faith.
This post was edited on 6/3/10 at 6:49 am
Posted by tiger in the gump
Member since Jan 2005
795 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 7:35 am to
tigerbaitn08 at first I was frustrated with your approach & suspicious with your affiliation. But at least it's different & gives this place some diversity.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20843 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 7:42 am to
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[quote]Let me be clear, I am not saying that everything IS okay, I realize what the potential effects COULD BE and i understand there are people scared because of the uncertainty. What I am saying is to relax and lets wait and see. I believe everything will be okay, I am am true believer that things are never as bad as they seem. Have a little faith.



BRAVO


Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 8:02 am to
For the record, I do not work for BP, I don't have any family that works for BP and I have no loyalty to BP. I am in the marine trnasportation business in which we do work in the same field BP is not one of my direct clients. I have nothing to gain or lose from BP by staying positive. I do however realize what I could lose if the tides start turning(pun intended) but for now we should remain calm and just continue to watch this situation close but don't get caught up in all the doom and gloom hype.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35315 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 8:18 am to
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I'd ask you the same question...


no shite, huh?


The problem with the OP is that it sets up a false dichotomy: panic/complain or "hope for the best."

I think people can do both AND then go do what they can to help. I volunteered and I'm reducing my petroleum use. May be merely symbolic, but it helps ease the helplessness.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 9:17 am to
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Well just took another look and yep there is still thousands of crabs, shrimp, and bait fish trying to avoid getting eaten by the thousands of lemon, red, jacks and bonita fish and this is just right around my platform so I thinks its safe to say as of today the world is not over. So put your head back in your arse and STFU, when all the fish are dying or dead then come find me.


Nice investigative work there Boss. The EPA could benefit from a roustabouts visual of THOUSANDS of sea creatures swimming off a platform. I mean, REALLY?!

Keep typing, it's rich.

Your contention is no less flawed than the moronic angle of the TA.


This post was edited on 6/3/10 at 9:35 am
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 9:36 am to
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don't get caught up in all the doom and gloom hype.


fear motivates.......but, rainbows and lollipops are more fun!
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 9:39 am to
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Do you know how to read a map? I'm going to post this again for you. Look at the areas that have been effected. All I am saying is that we are lucky we dont see more red and orange. Not a lot a direct oil impact when you're looking at the big picture.


The dispursants are sinking a large portion of it. I also think the beachgoers are lucky to this point, but those depending on whats beneath the surface are likely not to be so. The maps don't show that.

I truly hope we are all Chicken Littles, but this isn't a David Copperfield show.......double the amount of the Valdez has been spewed and while a small percentage has been accounted for in various ways (including biodegradation), it absolutley has to go somewhere. And, where it goes, will absolutely be poisoned.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 9:50 am to
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The dispursants are sinking a large portion of it


You're correct, the dispersants are keeping a large portion of it under the surface breaking it down then letting the bacteria of the ocean dregrad it to nothing.

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it absolutley has to go somewhere. And, where it goes, will absolutely be poisoned.


No it doesnt, after it is consumed by mother nature there is nothing left to go anywhere.

Check out this website and learn about the water sampling the EPA is doing. This may help you understand how dispersants work. There is a lot of info on here so I expect you to open your mind a little.

LINK
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 9:56 am to
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the point is, the % of oil that has hit our coast up until this point is very minimal compared to the amount that has gushed out. Also, the impact is also very minimal compared to how bad it could be. Most of the closures are due to precautionary measures. This is nothing compared to what the media and doom and gloomers are making it out to be. Yes, fishing and seafood may be done for this summer, as well as tourism to our coast and Gulf Coast beaches, and maybe even a year or two before the DHH clears our seafood, but come on man, as of right now, in the grand scheme of things we have a lot to be thankful for.


I'm dumber for having read this diatribe
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:04 am to
quote:


I'm dumber for having read this diatribe


That's impossible
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:06 am to
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...aquatic life near shore.....


We are missing a common point. My fears center around the bottom of the food chain that ulimately fuels those close to the coast. The lower food chains originate on the floor at the bottom of the cont shelf......where oil is likely to collect.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:15 am to
I see where you're coming from in that aspect. However, it will be years before we would know impact as to what your concern is.
Posted by Jason9782003
Member since Aug 2007
3736 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 1:17 pm to
One thing is certain. Somebody is full of shite.

This post was edited on 6/3/10 at 1:20 pm
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 2:08 pm to
The ocean is polluted with an oil gusher no one sure when it will end. The oil has to go somewhere. If you don't believe me then fill your bath tub up and sit in it. Then pour a quarter cup of oil in the water in one place and watch what happens.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20843 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 3:24 pm to
CharlesLSU

Did you happen to read the two post under the one you quoted? or look at the link I posted? guessing not. But thats right you dont need to your a fricking genius who is a PETE and a marine bio all rolled into one. Ive given clear evidence on why people need to stop being so fricking hysterical but yes im just some dumb college student who is a operator on a platform, yep you caught me.

That well pumped for OVER A YEAR AND GUESS WHAT THE AREA IS FINE. So please come up with some type of evidence besides your own stupidity to prove me other wise of why everyone should calm down.
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