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re: Little update on the sea turtles here on the coast.......
Posted on 5/7/10 at 5:39 pm to nhassl1
Posted on 5/7/10 at 5:39 pm to nhassl1
he said fingerlings...they head offshore and return when they are a yr older.........many trout live offshore and some move inland......
i never said the turtles died of oil...i do not believe that...but they surely didnt come from the shrimpers nets...
i never said the turtles died of oil...i do not believe that...but they surely didnt come from the shrimpers nets...
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Posted on 5/7/10 at 8:54 pm to sharkfhin
Any chance the pogie boats will go someplace else? Those damn things r the scurge of the earth.
Posted on 5/7/10 at 11:14 pm to Oyster
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Any chance the pogie boats will go someplace else? Those damn things r the scurge of the earth.
pooooooo
Posted on 5/8/10 at 9:50 am to loogaroo
I shove pieces of dog turd up my nose to prevent me from smelling those damn pogie boats! 
Posted on 5/8/10 at 7:50 pm to Big L
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Actually one of the "positives" that could come out of this is keeping the shrimpers off the waters a little longer...those guys do so much damage to the eco-system due to by-catch. all you fisherman who complain about only being able to keep 2 measly snapper over a two month season can largely thank the shrimpers
I agree with this, but the shrimpers are going bonkers...
Posted on 5/8/10 at 9:24 pm to Tiger in Texas
Yeah go head and ban shrimping ,and buy imports! And watch your tax money paying local families that are out of a job!
Oil companies have lots of money and will do anything or say anything to save thier arse.
Oil companies have lots of money and will do anything or say anything to save thier arse.
Posted on 5/9/10 at 8:14 am to bayoudude
I just want to point out that the study quoted would not have been possible without the help of the commercial shrimpers who you are bashing here. The study also proves that they are looking at other technologies which will reduce their bycatch. I also want to point out the conclusion of the study which says that the economic effects of using these devices far outweigh the benefits.
CONCLUSIONS
Reduction of finfish bycatch in the shrimp fishery has many positive ecological and economic ramifications, if it can be accomplished without a concurrent reduction in the shrimp catch; otherwise the economic impact on the shrimp fishery might far outweigh any benefits provided to finfish stocks and their fisheries. With a reduction in unwanted bycatch, the industry should realize a reduced cost to harvest and process the catch, as well as a higher quality product. These reductions will also provide indirect benefit by ameliorating a negative perception about "waste" in this fishery, and make a positive ecological impact on the faunal community inhabiting areas where shrimp are abundant. Just as importantly, reduction in juvenile finfish mortality is anticipated to increase available stocks of commercially and recreationally important fishes, thus alleviating user-group conflicts stemming from current catch restrictions.
This Program would have been impossible to begin, let alone complete, without the assistance that was offered by the southeastern commercial shrimp industry. The many owners and operators of shrimp trawlers from North Carolina to Texas are to be commended for their voluntary participation and their dedicated interest in this program. Their direct participation in the field operations, and their interaction with scientists, managers, and gear technologists was invaluable in completing the objectives of the Program.
CONCLUSIONS
Reduction of finfish bycatch in the shrimp fishery has many positive ecological and economic ramifications, if it can be accomplished without a concurrent reduction in the shrimp catch; otherwise the economic impact on the shrimp fishery might far outweigh any benefits provided to finfish stocks and their fisheries. With a reduction in unwanted bycatch, the industry should realize a reduced cost to harvest and process the catch, as well as a higher quality product. These reductions will also provide indirect benefit by ameliorating a negative perception about "waste" in this fishery, and make a positive ecological impact on the faunal community inhabiting areas where shrimp are abundant. Just as importantly, reduction in juvenile finfish mortality is anticipated to increase available stocks of commercially and recreationally important fishes, thus alleviating user-group conflicts stemming from current catch restrictions.
This Program would have been impossible to begin, let alone complete, without the assistance that was offered by the southeastern commercial shrimp industry. The many owners and operators of shrimp trawlers from North Carolina to Texas are to be commended for their voluntary participation and their dedicated interest in this program. Their direct participation in the field operations, and their interaction with scientists, managers, and gear technologists was invaluable in completing the objectives of the Program.
Posted on 5/9/10 at 8:29 am to EmCee
I've been in and around the seafood business all of my life and on both sides, commercial vs' recreational. The only bashing I hear is by the recreational fisherman. Don't jump my case, but I want to point out that there are way more of them because anyone can get a rec. fishing liscense. I also want some statistics on how the total rec. catch far outweighs the commercial fisherman's totals. I can't quote it verbatim, but I know it's out there and I'd like those who've seen it to post it here.
My point is that it is convenient that the rec. fisherman blame all of the troubles on the commercial. Even though the rec impact is as much or greater.
I think there needs to be some empathy for the commercial fisherman. It's their way of life. This job isn't easy and it isn't as profitable as it's made out to be. Their season lasts a couple of months and that money has to last. They can catch other seafood in the other seasons, but you're not looking at people who make 100K a year. A catch might bring in a couple thousand at a time, but those catches are few and far between.
Gasoline powered cars pollute the atmosphere. Should we ban all cars and car sales until there's better technology? The mentality in this question is the same as the mentality of banning shrimpers because their way of life is too primative for the times.
Just my thoughts...
My point is that it is convenient that the rec. fisherman blame all of the troubles on the commercial. Even though the rec impact is as much or greater.
I think there needs to be some empathy for the commercial fisherman. It's their way of life. This job isn't easy and it isn't as profitable as it's made out to be. Their season lasts a couple of months and that money has to last. They can catch other seafood in the other seasons, but you're not looking at people who make 100K a year. A catch might bring in a couple thousand at a time, but those catches are few and far between.
Gasoline powered cars pollute the atmosphere. Should we ban all cars and car sales until there's better technology? The mentality in this question is the same as the mentality of banning shrimpers because their way of life is too primative for the times.
Just my thoughts...
Posted on 5/10/10 at 12:26 am to EmCee
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My point is that it is convenient that the rec. fisherman blame all of the troubles on the commercial.
Seems like that's been going on forever; the first "Calvin-pissing-on-something" decal I ever saw was one of Calvin pissing on a GCCA logo.
Posted on 5/10/10 at 8:26 am to Big L
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Actually one of the "positives" that could come out of this is keeping the shrimpers off the waters a little longer
So its a positive thing that the shimpers are off the water so the by catch will now die from the oil..
Posted on 5/10/10 at 9:51 am to tgrbaitn08
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Because it's not just a coincidence. It may not be the oil, but it could be the dispersants. It's not common for 20 dead sea turtles to just wash ashore.
What was the average turtle death rate before the oil rig explosion? "It's not common" gets me warm and fuzzy coming from an excellent poster like yourself but I like to look at the numbers for humor.
ETA: I guess I am saying how many Sea Turtle deaths go unreported usually bc there wasn't anything reportable like "Oil Rig Explosion Killing Sea Turtles!!!". Instead it is usually guy on beach "awe, a dead sea turtle...let's go get lunch."
This post was edited on 5/10/10 at 9:55 am
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