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Any news on orange beach/gulfshores?

Posted on 6/15/10 at 12:18 pm
Posted by LSUPRIDE
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Posted on 6/15/10 at 12:18 pm
Anybody in this area with any news on the beaches and if cleaning crews are out there cleaning? Thanks in advance.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/15/10 at 12:26 pm to
I saw something on one of the networks last night saying it was really starting to hit Orange Beach and cleanup crews are out and about.

My friend and his wife are going to Orange Beach for the July 4th weekend specifically to spend money there (and stick to the swimming pools). I want to say his price for 3 days at the Phoenix is around $250. I told him not to shoot off any fireworks.
Posted by kathleen2
mississippi
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/15/10 at 12:35 pm to
I live in Perdido Key and Sunday decided to take a drive over to Perdido Pass where everyone said oil was comimg thru the pass.
When i got there, a large crew of about 150 workers were sitting in the shade under the canopy of the state park that's there.I walked all the way out to the beach on the Gulf,shot some pictures and talked to some people on the beach. There were no workers cleaning the beach.
There was oil and tar-balls as far as you could see. I was there for aout 3 hours and when i left, the workers were still sitting under the shage. Never moved.
This is what i'm hearing over here from everyone,no one is working,just sitting.
What the hell?
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/15/10 at 12:46 pm to
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I was there for aout 3 hours and when i left, the workers were still sitting under the shage. Never moved.
This is what i'm hearing over here from everyone,no one is working,just sitting.
What the hell?



I guess this is what Obama meant when he said he was going to create shovel ready jobs. Gotta love the government at work. I guess people are afraid to sweat..
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/15/10 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

When i got there, a large crew of about 150 workers were sitting in the shade under the canopy of the state park that's there.I walked all the way out to the beach on the Gulf,shot some pictures and talked to some people on the beach. There were no workers cleaning the beach.
There was oil and tar-balls as far as you could see. I was there for aout 3 hours and when i left, the workers were still sitting under the shage. Never moved.
This is what i'm hearing over here from everyone,no one is working,just sitting.
What the hell?


This is what you eventually get when you allow people to sub-contract to the lowest bidders. These companies should have to first pull from the local population, no one is going to carry more of a sense of urgency than someone whose livelihood is directly effected.
Posted by Bussemer
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Posted on 6/15/10 at 12:59 pm to
I heard a rumor that OSHA regs only allowed them 20 minutes per hour of actual cleaning. Such bullshite
Posted by bayoudude
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25843 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 1:02 pm to
Local volunteers would get more done than these paid contractors.
Posted by Dribble
Hey, nice marmot.
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 6/15/10 at 1:08 pm to
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I guess people are afraid to sweat..



While that is true, they are being told not to work. ( or at least restricted to very little work)

Right now it is 94 degrees with 60% humidty.(which is actually better than earlier in the week)


quote:

TABLE III:4-2. PERMISSIBLE HEAT EXPOSURE THRESHOLD LIMIT VALUE

-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work Load* ------------
Work/rest regimen Light Moderate Heavy Continuous work

30.0°C (86°F) 26.7°C (80°F) 25.0°C (77°F) --- 75% Work, 25% rest, each hour

30.6°C (87°F) 28.0°C (82°F) 25.9°C (78°F) --- 50% Work, 50% rest, each hour

31.4°C (89°F) 29.4°C (85°F) 27.9°C (82°F) --- 25% Work, 75% rest, each hour

32.2°C (90°F) 31.1°C (88°F) 30.0°C (86°F)

*Values are in °C and °F, WBGT. These TLV's are based on the assumption that nearly all acclimatized, fully clothed workers with adequate water and salt intake should be able to function effectively under the given working conditions without exceeding a deep body temperature of 38°C (100.4° F). They are also based on the assumption that the WBGT of the resting place is the same or very close to that of the workplace. Where the WBGT of the work area is different from that of the rest area, a time-weighted average should be used (consult the ACGIH 1992-1993 Threshold Limit Values for Chemical Substances and Physical Agents and Biological Exposure Indices (1992). These TLV's apply to physically fit and acclimatized individuals wearing light summer clothing. If heavier clothing that impedes sweat or has a higher insulation value is required, the permissible heat exposure TLV's in Table III:4-2 must be reduced by the corrections shown in Table III:4-3.


LINK





*******ETA:
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Such bullshite

quote:

Local volunteers would get more done than these paid contractors.

Both are absolutely correct.
This post was edited on 6/15/10 at 1:11 pm
Posted by Bussemer
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Posted on 6/15/10 at 1:10 pm to
Wish I would have had that nifty chart at a few of my old summer jobs
Posted by LSUGradATL
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 6/15/10 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

a large crew of about 150 workers were sitting in the shade under the canopy of the state park that's there
quote:

There were no workers cleaning the beach
quote:

I was there for aout 3 hours and when i left, the workers were still sitting under the shage. Never moved.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/15/10 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Wish I would have had that nifty chart at a few of my old summer jobs


Damned straight. I used to hoe cotton during the summer when I was in high school (we all did). It didn't matter if it was 85 or 105, we were out there with goosenecks in our hands, sweating, and throwing bolls at each other.
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