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re: Woman Goes Off On A Guy & His Family For Using Food Stamps!

Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:42 pm to
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he is just as likely to be fleecing the the system as not


Close enough

Eta: so you're saying you have evidence that 50% of people fleece the system instead of 'more' than 50%, got it.....

Still I'd like to see some evidence presented for you to back up this statement, or shut the frick up
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 1:45 pm
Posted by meauxjeaux2
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:45 pm to
shame needs to be brought back into walfare.

I'm all about shaming able bodied people back into the workforce.
Might not be able to find employment immediately but the amount of shame they should be feeling will at least make them try to gain employment.
And yes i did see the Cork thread.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:48 pm to
These people thinking they're all high and mighty because of the $500/year they contribute to food stamps crack me up.

Rich people should be the ones bitching about it, but they don't...
Posted by ssgtiger
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:49 pm to
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Close enough



Your comprehension is amazing.

So if I tell you when I go to the store this evening I will either pay with cash or card, what are the percentages of each?

quote:

so you're saying you have evidence that 50% of people fleece the system instead of 'more' than 50%, got it.....



Again I never said that 50% of people on public assistance fleece it. I said this person was just as likely as to as not, since no one in this thread had any info about him. Any guess would have 50% odds to be right.

Oh and as I said I will talk as much about it as I want. You are the one who should heed his own advise and shut the frick up. The more you talk the more you are removing all doubt of your intelligence.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:50 pm to
I agree there should be some shame, but shame to the ones that don't need it and abusing the system. There needs to not be shame for someone that actually needs the help, and an amount of shame that would cause someone that actually NEEDS the help but be ashamed to use it, isn't healthy, again see cork thread.

The reason I say standing in a line and judging someone when you don't know the thing about the person isn't the appropriate way to approach the situation of fraud.
Posted by ssgtiger
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:51 pm to
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These people thinking they're all high and mighty because of the $500/year they contribute to food stamps crack me up.

Rich people should be the ones bitching about it, but they don't...


I don't care if they put $0.50 into it. Its there money they have the right to voice their displeasure. I would have to disagree about the rich not bitching about it.
Posted by ssgtiger
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:53 pm to
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The reason I say standing in a line and judging someone when you don't know the thing about the person isn't the appropriate way to approach the situation of fraud.




Again Saint, I totally agree with you as that is not how I would approach the situation at all. What I am saying is to say it is not a tax payers business is just wrong.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:54 pm to
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Again I never said that 50% of people on public assistance fleece it. I said this person was just as likely as to as not, since no one in this thread had any info about him. Any guess would have 50% odds to be right.
obviously where there is only 2 scenerios it's a 50/50 split, but you are being intellectually dishonest with making that statement. You are implying they you know something everyone else must not, that half of the people using foodstamps are fleecing the system.

Why even make a statement of 'just as likely to be fleecing'?

But keep on player, I'm about to head to Rouse's in the WHD, hope to see you standing in the front with the stink eye mean mugging
Posted by ssgtiger
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:56 pm to
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But keep on player, I'm about to head to Rouse's in the WHD, hope to see you standing in the front with the stink eye mean mugging


Don't let me see you pull out that SNAP card and jump in your Bentley, cause I'm going to shame the shite out of you.

Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:56 pm to
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These people thinking they're all high and mighty because of the $500/year they contribute to food stamps crack me up.

Rich people should be the ones bitching about it, but they don't...
mom and pops, local grocers, and the corporations like target and wm would take a beating without the huge percentage they get from EBT.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:56 pm to
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These people thinking they're all high and mighty because of the $500/year they contribute to food stamps crack me up. Rich people should be the ones bitching about it, but they don't...



Oh wait I thought $500 was heavily impactful to poor people's spending habits? Flippin the script now I see. This statement says it all about all of your arguments. Congrats!
Posted by ssgtiger
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:57 pm to
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mom and pops, local grocers, and the corporations like target and wm would take a beating without the huge percentage they get from EBT.


That is a fact. It would seriously hurt and cause everything to go through the roof.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 1:58 pm
Posted by meauxjeaux2
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:58 pm to
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mom and pops, local grocers, and the corporations like target and wm would take a beating without the huge percentage they get from EBT.
false. You think people just aren't going to eat?
Posted by ssgtiger
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:59 pm to
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false. You think people just aren't going to eat?


Serious Clark?
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:59 pm to
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What I am saying is to say it is not a tax payers business is just wrong.
fricking right it's the tax payers business!!! But the approach of being a nosey arse and looking into someone wallet over their shoulder is a terrible approach....

The tax money is paid to the gov, the gov issues the ebt, the Gov is where someone needs to address the situation.

Of course if you have 'evidence' of fraud and actually KNOW someone that is 'fleecing', then please voice your concern, but throwing out blanket statements and lambasting someone that you know NOTHING about is not at all the best approach. Period.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:00 pm to
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Serious Clark?
take away EBT and poof! All of the money the stores are making all of a sudden disappears.

Sure.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:02 pm to
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Eta: so you're saying you have evidence that 50% of people fleece the system instead of 'more' than 50%, got it.....


Let's say folks, by and large, aren't "fleecing" the system. Sure, we can all agree there is some gaming of the system, but, particularly the children of these families are blameless.

That's still not what our system is all about. These programs advertise to bolster the numbers. Why? Because the bureaucracy must grow and expand to fill all space - it's just how it is. If you think that government is the solution to all problems, that is Marxism whether you like the word or not. If you think that government is a necessary evil and recognize that every dime that is spent by the government on this "gee whiz" and "good idea fairy" programs has to be taken, by force, from productive Americans, then you want that kept to as little as possible.

I'm closing in on completing my 5th decade of life. I can't see a middle position between those two.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 2:03 pm
Posted by ssgtiger
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:02 pm to
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is not at all the best approach


No question it is not the best approach, but the working class has been fleeced for years, by the government, the extremely wealthy and the people looking for a free ride. It is unfair to judge someone who possibly is fed up with it.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:03 pm to
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Don't let me see you pull out that SNAP card and jump in your Bentley, cause I'm going to shame the shite out of you.


what if I'm hurt and can't ride my bike and the nice guy st my church allowed me to borrow his car so I can go to Walmart and spend some of my SNAP benifits for me and my 2 year old to eat for the next week? I mean he pays a ton of taxs and and knows he is paying taxs towards helping feed me but he still lets me borrow his Tahoe out of the goodness of his heart..... But then you not knowing anything about me would stand out in the parking lot and judge me not knowing I have been riding a bike to that store every week for the past 3 months?
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:05 pm to
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It is unfair to judge someone
No.Doubt

Please do all the judging you want when you are privy to the situation.... Stay your nose out of someone's wallet or purse when you don't know a single thing of a person or their situation.
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