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re: Will you make it to heaven?
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:25 am to HempHead
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:25 am to HempHead
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Determinism implies that all actions and eventualities are programmed from the very beginning of reality. If true, then there can be no conclusion other than reality being a simulation.
That wording sort of implies a programmer, I think. I’m not off board with the simulation argument, though. Especially Nick Bostrom’s argument.
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:26 am to HempHead
Fist of the north star anime..I actually know that one lol
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:28 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You have free will, however you're programmed with certain inclinations that you can override.
Well, that seems a little like shifting the goalposts to me. It would be almost analogous to controlling a video game character in an RPG. You have choices, but those choices are restricted to the possibilities built in to the system. I’d take it a step further and say that the choices we make are ultimately a consequence of factors beyond our control, too.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:30 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Not my call, I have no idea how in control of their faculties a person is when they commit suicide or any other sin.
What I am focused on is God's grace and trying my best to not sin. Some days it is harder than others.
the world would be a better place if all religious people thought like this.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:30 am to IAM4LSU777
I’m excited about the eternal darkness and being worm food myself
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:33 am to rbWarEagle
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Well, that seems a little like shifting the goalposts to me. It would be almost analogous to controlling a video game character in an RPG. You have choices, but those choices are restricted to the possibilities built in to the system. I’d take it a step further and say that the choices we make are ultimately a consequence of factors beyond our control, too.
When you say farewell to the flesh, you needs to comfort, lust, selfishness, etc are all gone. It's those things that fuel the fire for "sin".
You dont have human needs anymore..therefore all these things that give us pleasure and satisfaction are no longer a thing.
Or some shite like that..
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:34 am to SEClint
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When you say farewell to the flesh, you needs to comfort, lust, selfishness, etc are all gone. It's those things that fuel the fire for "sin".
Being set up for failure seems like a weird system but
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:35 am to Dawgholio
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I’m excited about the eternal darkness and being worm food myself
Try a life expectancy calculator
It’s a real fun fest
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:38 am to rbWarEagle
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Being set up for failure seems like a weird system but
There's nothing particularly difficult or exciting about a system in which error is impossible.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:40 am to HempHead
True... but when failure = hell, that’s when things started to get weird for me in terms of belief. I’m sure your views are more sophisticated, though. Not a slight at all, by the way.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:43 am to IAM4LSU777
Im going to be reborn as a missionary for adidam on the planet where senator romney is going to be God-king.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:45 am to CelticDog
If Mormonism is correct, like South Park said, I'm going to shite a brick. Might give them my info so they posthumously baptize me just to be safe.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:49 am to rbWarEagle
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I’d take it a step further and say that the choices we make are ultimately a consequence of factors beyond our control, too.
Nah.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
Well, you make a good point.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:53 am to HempHead
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There's nothing particularly difficult or exciting about a system in which error is impossible.
Truth.
We make choices every day, that's freewill. We can and should be held responsible for our actions. How that applies to afterlife, I really don't know and then as energy we continue to be energy, but if our consciousness is gone, there's no heaven or hell.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
A lot of animals make choices and I think you’d be hesitant to attribute free will to most if not all of them. Choice exists regardless of free will.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
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but if our consciousness is gone, there's no heaven or hell.
Some people argue that that is hell. Nothingness. Dissipation.
Not the fire and brimstone but just completely ending. No transfer of energy. I dont really share the viewpoint but it's another take on it all
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:58 am to IAM4LSU777
Nah
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:58 am to rbWarEagle
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I think you’d be hesitant to attribute free will to most if not all of them
I would, but I'd also be hesitant to say that it does not apply to them, at least in animals with higher orders of cognition.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:00 pm to oldcharlie8
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if the human race found out, without a shadow of a doubt, that heaven does not exist, someone better hurry up and invent an afterlife. humans don't like "the end". we aren't built for it mentally.
I’m built for it. I believe my death is inevitable and that it will be the end of my consciousness in any form - yet I still lead a productive, fulfilling life, can handle adversity, and I have no desire to harm or cheat others.
People have been taught they need the crutch of religion when they actually don’t. Religion is the problem, not the solution.
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