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re: Wildfires on Maui Island - Evacuations - People Fleeing into Ocean
Posted on 8/13/23 at 1:40 pm to LegendInMyMind
Posted on 8/13/23 at 1:40 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:
Death toll is now at 93 and is expected to keep climbing.
What is current estimate for missing/unaccounted for people?
I figured that number would be high for several days with how quickly it happened over night, losing power & ability to communicate, and also trying to account for vacationers without local contacts or ID info with some. It does seem like the missing estimate would be a little lower by now, but I keep reading around 1000 (some articles are just including old data along with actual updates).
Posted on 8/22/23 at 5:08 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:Narrow view? Mine was a very focused view of facts and laws gained from dealing with the issue of large scale burning in the islands where coral bleaching and the killing of fish are major concerns for environments which are very dependent upon the reefs and fish.
Equating all native fire practices to "random self-serving burning" is a pretty narrow view of it. Also, insinuating that all those were natives doing the burning isn't helpful, or l
likely even true.
As to "insinuating," I stated what was a known fact as local people admitted it and nobody contradicted their admissions.
The only remaining issue was whether it would be continued as a lawful practice by various entities which hold a role in deciding such issues.
quote:Different environment, different people and different legal situations. Applying your US mainland facts, ownership and laws to a situation on the other side of the ocean is peculiar at best.
Areas of the country that have worked to bring the native population back into the fold (with planned and and safely carried out prescribed burns) have seen marked improvement over areas that still fight the notion.
quote:Really? How did you determine this ownership/legality issue? How did you decide to permit the practice which is widely believed to have seriously detrimental environmental impacts to the reefs and fish around the island which those islands largely depend upon?
At the very least they should be "allowed" to burn on their own lands.
Sounds like you are applying solutions applicable to the US desert southwest to situations involving Pacific islands and calling it a day.
Not likely to obtain an acceptable result...
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