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re: Why would any sane healthy person vaccinate against a virus with 99.6% recovery rate?

Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:43 pm to
Posted by martiansgohome
Ankara
Member since Feb 2004
4682 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:43 pm to
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But yes, the massive gender gap in vaccinations rates absolutely stems from men being afraid to confront their own fraility and present a major obstacle to ending the pandemic. Is that at all a controversial thing to say?


Yes. It is. Please provide some
Peer-reviewed research that substantiates this as it actually runs counter to 40 years of personal
observations.

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To your other question, when everyone in an at risk group for covid is vaccinated we will hope next year’s version of the vaccine is effective against the variants continuing to transmit throughout the unvaccinated populations across the globe. Of course not everyone in the at risk groups can get vaccinated and that is a main reason you should vaccinate yourself if you can.


When have corona-viruses mutated to become more
lethal?
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:45 pm to
I took all 3 vaccines. Trying to get my hands on some black market AstraZeneca to vax for the cycle.
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
4166 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:46 pm to
Is your loser self vax shaming people on a message board? You must suck. Worry about yourself pal.
Posted by martiansgohome
Ankara
Member since Feb 2004
4682 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:47 pm to
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Of course not everyone in the at risk groups can get vaccinated and that is a main reason you should vaccinate yourself if you can.


In the U.S, I completely disagree. Same day appointments at vaccination sights illustrate this. However, I believe (still researching it) India is getting ravaged and this country could (and should) help them because some folks here are so self-absorbed and scared that they can’t get past the “everybody needs to be vaccinated” shite. It’s like folks don’t know what prudent risk is.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5910 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:52 pm to
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Not sure if this passes your peer review requirement or not but this article discusses the gender gap. And I’m now a bit confused by your position. Just to clarify, you believe men are being vaccinated for covid at higher rates than women?
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18309 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:57 pm to
I get flu shots... survived Covid, going with my own immunity
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5910 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:04 pm to
No argument there. We should absolutely ship vaccines to India. Louisiana was at about 29.5% of its population with at least one shot nearly 3 weeks ago. Today I think it is 31.7%. We’ve basically gone nowhere in 3 weeks. If people here aren’t using them I fully support sending vaccines to other areas of the country where demand is still robust and then ship abroad.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:04 pm to
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If you can’t even try to empathize
I've tried and failed.
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then please explain what happens when all of those at-risk of covid are vaccinated?
What do you mean? As in many of those who are not at risk of dying don't get vaccinated?
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Cause folks who cry mutations are largely uninformed
Explain.
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are generally just trying to perpetuate this hysteria

People who refuse to vaccinate are perpetuating the whole damn ordeal.
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so they can compensate for their own inadequacies by impressing friends and neighbors with their knowledge and feelings about a mostly existential issue.
You're just rambling now.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:06 pm to
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Is your loser self vax shaming people on a message board? You must suck. Worry about yourself pal.
Pretty sure I'm only shaming people who are calling others pussies or otherwise being assholes.

You worry about yourself.
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
6931 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:06 pm to
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Neither of these things are remotely true, no matter how many times you idiots repeat it.

They’re both true, no matter how many times you idiots repeat that they’re not.
Posted by martiansgohome
Ankara
Member since Feb 2004
4682 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:06 pm to
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Not sure if this passes your peer review requirement or not but this article discusses the gender gap. And I’m now a bit confused by your position.


I skimmed that earlier. Where does it equate “masculinity” with “men being unable to face their mortality and frailty”?

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Just to clarify, you believe men are being vaccinated for covid at higher rates than women?


I already stated women had a higher rate of vaccination (57%). I disagree that not everyone who needs a vaccination can get it. Same day appointments and multiple empty vaccination pods say otherwise.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
13244 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:10 pm to
I know a guy right now that said this same thing. The virus isn’t what is killing him. The Covid induced pneumonia actually is.
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
4166 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:10 pm to
All good, just wanted to be sure you knew you were a loser. Carry on
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2018
2175 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:11 pm to
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Especially since the vaccines use new methods and are rushed.

I mean...c’mon man.


4 years, use for the zika virus and the common flu, i wouldn't say that's rushed.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5910 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:11 pm to
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Where does it equate “masculinity” with “men being unable to face their mortality and frailty”?


“Decades of research have documented how and why men are less likely to seek care. A 2019 study in the American Journal of Men’s Health, for example, examined health care use in religious heterosexual men and concluded masculine norms — such as a perception that they are supposed to be tough — were the main reason many men avoided seeking care.”

It says it right there in that hard to find middle part of the article.
Posted by martiansgohome
Ankara
Member since Feb 2004
4682 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:13 pm to
Everyone who needs a vaccination in this country is able to get it. So, that leaves those choosing not to get it at accepting the risk.

Mutations: viral mutations are generally less lethal. Look at the Spanish Flu. I challenge anyone who perpetuates this mutation fear mongering to provide examples of similar viruses mutating and becoming worse.

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People who refuse to vaccinate are perpetuating the whole damn ordeal


Those not getting vaccinated aren’t hysterical about it. However, who form galvanized opinions about them generally are.

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You're just rambling now.


It’s a psychological explanation that explains why many people are so willing to cloak themselves in other peoples struggles, or help create struggles.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51949 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:13 pm to
Are women more likely to be seeking care for nothing?
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:14 pm to
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Cause folks who cry mutations are largely uninformed Explain.


When a virus mutates it becomes ________________

A. Stronger
B. Weaker
C. Potato
D. Uranium

Posted by martiansgohome
Ankara
Member since Feb 2004
4682 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:16 pm to
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Decades of research have documented how and why men are less likely to seek care. A 2019 study in the American Journal of Men’s Health, for example, examined health care use in religious heterosexual men and concluded masculine norms — such as a perception that they are supposed to be tough — were the main reason many men avoided seeking care.”

It says it right there in that hard to find middle part of the article.



You didn’t read past that did you? And somehow equated masculinity with “being unable to confront mortality and frailty” Even though the study defines the elements of “masculinity”. lol
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