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re: Why Tipping Should Be Banned
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:31 am to Breesus
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:31 am to Breesus
I would rather poor service, where I have to flag down the waiter or pay at the counter, than better service where I'm guilted into tipping just because.
I mean the tipping concept here is so bizarre. No one informs you of it- but you're a cheap a-hole if you don't tip. Can you imagine the confusion of a foreigner dining at a restaurant who doesn't know any better? It's really gotten out of control too. Everyone wants a god damn tip. And people like me don't want to look cheap so we tip well not to look cheap. It's really annoying.
How about the restaurants charge more for the food, the customer doesn't tip, and everyone is made happier by a simpler system.
I mean the tipping concept here is so bizarre. No one informs you of it- but you're a cheap a-hole if you don't tip. Can you imagine the confusion of a foreigner dining at a restaurant who doesn't know any better? It's really gotten out of control too. Everyone wants a god damn tip. And people like me don't want to look cheap so we tip well not to look cheap. It's really annoying.
How about the restaurants charge more for the food, the customer doesn't tip, and everyone is made happier by a simpler system.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:31 am to Breesus
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In some fantasy society this works
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:31 am to Scruffy
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So we keep a shitty system because people might be assholes?
It's not a shitty system. And the reality of the situation is that the restaurant experience would be worse.
If you're super concerned with waiters wages, you can argue that they should be paid minimum wage, but why ban tipping?
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:33 am to TheIndulger
quote:But that doesn't make any sense!
How about the restaurants charge more for the food, the customer doesn't tip, and everyone is made happier by a simpler system.
Blah, blah, blah
You have to pay them so the owner doesn't have to.
Blah
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:33 am to Signal Soldier
I truly like tipping good service! It makes ME feel good! 
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:34 am to Breesus
quote:Don't support banning anything, but hate the current tipping culture.
If you're super concerned with waiters wages, you can argue that they should be paid minimum wage, but why ban tipping?
No one should ever expect a tip. Ever.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:35 am to CaliforniaTiger
I still happily tip, normally 25%. I just don't believe it's the most rational system.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:35 am to TheIndulger
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would rather poor service, where I have to flag down the waiter or pay at the counter, than better service where I'm guilted into tipping just because.
So, you're insane.
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Everyone wants a god damn tip. And people like me don't want to look cheap so we tip well not to look cheap. It's really annoying.
So the problem isn't with the system, it's with your self esteem and ego?
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How about the restaurants charge more for the food, the customer doesn't tip, and everyone is made happier by a simpler system.
Everyone isn't happier. The restaurant loses business because of increased prices, they either cut food quality, fore employees, or both, and the service declines, leading to an unhappy customer.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:36 am to Breesus
Gonna assume that you worked in the service industry. 
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:36 am to Scruffy
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No one should ever expect a tip. Ever.
No one should ever expect anything
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 12:37 am
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:37 am to Scruffy
I can't believe more people aren't pissed at the people who don't tip and therefore get their food for less. That alone is reason enough to get rid of tipping.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:37 am to Signal Soldier
Tipping should never be banned, it allows people who tip well to get better and faster service. Plus, if you end up being drunk and stupid it buys forgiveness and I sometimes issues with that.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:37 am to Breesus
Our culture not only expects a tip, they essentially demand one. Why is that?
People are publicly shamed for not tipping.
People are publicly shamed for not tipping.
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 12:39 am
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:38 am to Scruffy
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Gonna assume that you worked in the service industry
I have. Have you? Or are you one of those people who wants to change the livelihood of an entire profession without any idea what you're talking about or any experience in that profession?
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:38 am to Scruffy
In my state, servers make at least minimum wage ($9.47) and you're still expected to tip in full. That one bugs me a little. 
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:39 am to Breesus
quote:Nope. Scruffy's interactions are as the costumer and he hates the system.
Have you?
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:39 am to Scruffy
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People are publicly shamed for not tipping.
I have never in my entire life seen anyone publicly shamed for not tipping excluding millionaires on Twitter.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:40 am to Scruffy
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Scruffy's interactions are as the costumer and he hates the system.
Then cook your own food and leave the service industry alone
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:40 am to Breesus
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How about the restaurants charge more for the food, the customer doesn't tip, and everyone is made happier by a simpler system.
Everyone isn't happier. The restaurant loses business because of increased prices, they either cut food quality, fore employees, or both, and the service declines, leading to an unhappy customer.
This is all horseshite. The only people that lose in this situation are the POS people that didn't tip before and now those peoples' tip is included in the meal. Good screw those a-hole nontippers.
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 12:41 am
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:41 am to Breesus
I've worked in the service industry, both dealing with food and selling t-shirts.
I didn't deal with your food any faster/nicer because I was hoping for a tip, I did it because it was my job.
When I was selling t-shirts, was I supposed to not help the customer as well if I thought he was going to give me a shitty tip?
I didn't deal with your food any faster/nicer because I was hoping for a tip, I did it because it was my job.
When I was selling t-shirts, was I supposed to not help the customer as well if I thought he was going to give me a shitty tip?
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