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re: Why Tipping Should Be Banned

Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:23 am to
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:23 am to
I usually tip well unless they suck, so I basically agree that it's a myth that good servers get tipped more. Another problem I have with tipping is the women get tipped more because they have boobs. The guy usually pays, and guys usually are attracted to girls.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:23 am to
The real problem with tipping is that shitty people who don't tip get food at decreased price by the expense of the good people who do tip.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76602 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:23 am to
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Then you're insane. If tipping didn't exist and every waiter got paid the same at every restaurant regardless of attitude or quality of service, the good waiters would quit and find a more lucrative job as their income would go down since tips are now artificially capped, and the service industry would flood with McDonald's counter workers.
Go to Europe. No one tips there and service is fine. Scruffy had great service the entire time he was there.
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What?
Why is it Scruffy's job to decide how much a person is paid? The business owner should pay them a wage.

That isn't Scruffy's job.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37525 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:24 am to
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every waiter got paid the same at every restaurant regardless of attitude or quality of service

What? Why would this happen?
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:24 am to
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Then you're insane. If tipping didn't exist and every waiter got paid the same at every restaurant regardless of attitude or quality of service, the good waiters would quit and find a more lucrative job as their income would go down since tips are now artificially capped, and the service industry would flood with McDonald's counter workers.


I definitely have heard nightmare stories about Europe.
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:25 am to
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Another problem I have with tipping is the women get tipped more because they have boobs. The guy usually pays, and guys usually are attracted to girls.


Pisses me off too. It's like 30% of the reason why Im gay now
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 12:25 am
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:25 am to
If you get rid of tipping, wouldn't you pay all your staff the same amount?

That's what everyone here is bitching about, right? The owners should raise all the prices of their menus and pay the staff the same wage across the board.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76602 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:25 am to
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I definitely have heard nightmare stories about Europe.
Can't recall a single bad instance during Scruffy's month there.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37525 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:25 am to
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Go to Europe. No one tips there and service is fine. Scruffy had great service the entire time he was there

Yep, I lived there for four years, and if anything, the service was generally better.
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:26 am to
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The owners should raise all the prices of their menus and pay the staff the same wage across the board.


Why do they have to pay everyone the same amount?
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:26 am to
Good to know. I also like tipping people who I'm not supposed to tip. If they kick arse and they have no reason to besides being hardworking, I like to give low paid employees a bit extra.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69529 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:27 am to
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definitely have heard nightmare stories about Europe


I've been to Europe and Asia, both poor parts and Rich parts. They don't have the sick entitled jackass culture bread into their being like we do here in America.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37525 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:27 am to
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If you get rid of tipping, wouldn't you pay all your staff the same amount?

No. You pay for performance and experience, just like every other industry.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76602 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:27 am to
And then you do what is called "firing" and get rid of the shitty servers.

Seems pretty easy, plus there isn't exactly a shortage of people to work as waiters.
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:27 am to
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You pay for performance and experience, just like every other industry.



This, obviously
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69529 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:28 am to
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Yep, I lived there for four years, and if anything, the service was generally better.



The people are generally better.

Things don't work the same in the US as they do in Europe. Not at all for a number of social, cultural, and economic reasons.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:28 am to
Good point. Just because service isn't bad there doesn't mean it wouldn't be bad here.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76602 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:29 am to
So we keep a shitty system because people might be assholes?
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
11067 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:30 am to
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Also, Scruffy doubts quality of service would decrease.


Tell that to people from other countries, most of whom will tell you that US restaurant service is superior.

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It should not be Scruffy's job to pay the waiter what the owner is unwilling to.


You realize that it has no effect on the owner, right? If they had to adhere to standard minimum wage the cost would just get passed right back to you.

All you're doing is fricking over your server. Congrats.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69529 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:30 am to
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You pay for performance and experience, just like every other industry.


LOL

Like a restaurant manager is going to grade each of his employees performance and adjust their wages based on that. Yall have lost your minds. In some fantasy society this works, but not in real current America.
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