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re: Why don't soldiers wear bullet proof vest/armor?

Posted on 6/23/14 at 8:34 am to
Posted by rebeloke
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 8:34 am to
Especially if you're crazy or a bad guy, which is why war changes you.
Posted by brass2mouth
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 8:41 am to
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Meh I've never run a combat patrol so I can't speak to it being a good idea or not. I've never shot at anyone but supposedly most rifle rounds pierce BA. I've never tested that though.


The current ceramic plate system that we all wear now is designed to spot a 7.62 rifle round, and will stop multiple round providing the spacing between the ceramic plates isn't greater than 1cm (I think that's the number).

We always had mission briefings before we rolled out, and we did checks on each other...your IBA was a mandatory item.

Didn't know of or know anybody that neglected to wear it.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 8:41 am to
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Seems like a lot of casualties could be avoided.


Believe it or not, but bullet proof vest dont stop all bullets and specifically riffle bullets
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 8:42 am to
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I've never shot at anyone but supposedly most rifle rounds pierce BA. I've


The trauma plates that protect the organs do a pretty good job of keeping those from being fatal wounds - but still - repeated hits, hits to the spaces between the plates - you can't have trauma plates everywhere - but, again, they are working hard at making the protection better and lighter (which is the same thing in this field - the lighter it is, the more you can wear, the better protection you can make, the lighter you can go for the same protection level.)

But, yeah, particularly for the armor that most people know, that is a pistol/secondary projectile protection first, and rifle/machine gun protection (i.e. the threats you will actually face in an operation) second - which is why the love/hate relationship with the stuff.

Extremely hot and extremely heavy - thank goodness I was too old for all that running around with that stuff on.

The other thing it does is reduce mission endurance - having to wear heavy armor means you can't carry more ammo, food and water.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 8:44 am to
I wore that shite for 3 weeks straight once. Not even taking it off to sleep. fricking miserable.
Posted by lrabor3
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 8:47 am to
My cousin did three tours in Afghanistan and he would not insert the ceramic plates in the side because he had seen where one guy had them there and had a bomb go off and the plates cut his arms off from the explosion. (not sure if this is true, he tends to stretch the truth sometimes) But it seems to be a good reason not to have them. I'm just glad he made it back.
Posted by brass2mouth
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 8:50 am to
I never heard of that happening, but there are documented cased where the troop was shot in the shoulder or some place around teh armor and as the bullet exited the other side struck teh plating and bounced back into him.
Posted by lrabor3
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 8:52 am to
When he came back he had videos of buddies getting shot and stuff because a lot of them had cameras on theres guns, pretty sweet videos of fire fights and stuff. The best video he had was an A-10 lighting up a tree line and you see this Taliban guy just go flying up in the air 50 feet. it was awesome
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 8:53 am to
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ceramic plates




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1 rd of 9mm 124 grain fmj, 1 rd 55 grain 5.45x39 and 9 rounds of 5.56 m855. The 9th rd of 5.56 penetrated it
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