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re: Why are there no car companies that make cars that looks as good as expensive...
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:11 pm to slackster
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:11 pm to slackster
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The question in the OP is why do cheaper vehicles have to look like cheaper vehicles. It seems pretty straight forward.
It is and also raised some interesting and somewhat healthy debate. One of the better and seemingly untrolled threads in awhile.
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:11 pm to shinerfan
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Volkswagen CC is sharp as hell inside and out for $30k.
Yep, too bad it's a piece of shite. My ex had one and that car was nothing but problems for her.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:14 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I'm pretty sure nobody is buying a minivan because "they think it looks good." I'm guessing it's pretty much purely a functionality decision.
Some people think they look good or else there wouldn't be design teams for the vehicles. Minivans would just be in the shape of a rectangle. They are designed to attract certain people. Some people think they look like shite but are functional. Some people think they look good and are functional.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:16 pm to Pecker
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Some people think they look like shite but are functional. Some people think they look good and are functional.
I feel like the look good group is much smaller but still a good point.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:17 pm to Pecker
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Some people think they look good or else there wouldn't be design teams for the vehicles. Minivans would just be in the shape of a rectangle. They are designed to attract certain people. Some people think they look like shite but are functional. Some people think they look good and are functional.
Right. They are competing on the margins of those who are choosing to buy a mini-van. I'm just saying, you'd be absolutely hard-pressed to find anyone who is making THAT initial decision on a a purely aesthetic basis, versus another vehicle that is not a minivan. I would venture to say it is nobody.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:19 pm to LNCHBOX
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For you to act like you're surprised branding has an influence over perceived quality is just astounding to me.
We're talking about vehicles and whether or not they look good. That is it.
This isn't watches or sunglasses where they basically all look the same.
You can remove all of the badging you want from vehicle and an unbiased observer will prefer the LOOK of an Audi over a Camry.
Your posts in this thread lead me to believe you're trying to justify the looks of your Pontiac Aztek by saying everyone would love it if it had a BMW badge...
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:20 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I'm just saying, you'd be absolutely hard-pressed to find anyone who is making THAT initial decision on a a purely aesthetic basis, versus another vehicle that is not a minivan.
Isn't this true for just about any vehicle though? I doubt many people go the dealership looking for a Mustang and coming home with an Explorer.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:21 pm to Y.A. Tittle
That's incorrect because minivans have always competed with smaller SUVs, especially since SUVs became more practical (safety ratings and MPG.)
You're naive if you don't think there is a segment of 40-60 year olds who like the way minivans look and choose to purchase one over a similarly priced, similarly functional SUV or crossover.
You're naive if you don't think there is a segment of 40-60 year olds who like the way minivans look and choose to purchase one over a similarly priced, similarly functional SUV or crossover.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:21 pm to slackster
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We're talking about vehicles and whether or not they look good. That is it
Which is influenced by perception.
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Your posts in this thread lead me to believe you're trying to justify the looks of your Pontiac Aztek by saying everyone would love it if it had a BMW badge...
Never go full retard.
ETA: And this is still nothing more than your opinion.
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You can remove all of the badging you want from vehicle and an unbiased observer will prefer the LOOK of an Audi over a Camry.
And I'll again say that the Camry is the highest selling car i this country and that your opinion is likely wrong.
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:22 pm to LNCHBOX
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No one wants to buy a Honda that looks like a Mercedes but still has cloth seats an no tech.
Why not? You already have to settle for cloth seats and a tape deck, why does your car have to LOOK like shite on the outside as well?
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:23 pm to slackster
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Why not? You already have to settle for cloth seats and a tape deck, why does your car have to LOOK like shite on the outside as well?
If someone wanted it, they'd make it.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:23 pm to Goldrush25
Agreed- only way this would happen is if a company went all in on low-end vehicles and wanted to steal that market share from everyone else.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:25 pm to Pecker
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You're naive if you don't think there is a segment of 40-60 year olds who like the way minivans look and choose to purchase one over a similarly priced, similarly functional SUV or crossover.
I would need to see evidence of this to believe it.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:26 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:It's impossible to prove... but I'll give a little anecdote.
IS this the point where I say prove it? Because I feel like it's about that time.
Just a few months ago my parents were looking for a new vehicle. They were looking at Toyota, Honda, Nissan, etc. They have only owned Toyota vehicles and really like Toyota, but they were also interested in Honda because of their reputation. They visited the dealerships and test drove the vehicles and had a couple in mind that they liked. They checked Consumer Reports when they got back and saw that a Kia was rated as their highest-rated vehicle.
They said... "a Kia??" They were under the impression that Kia was a cheap brand. But they went to the dealership to look at Kia the next day and were so impressed with the Kia that they bought it on the spot.
That goes to show you that branding only goes so far. The actual vehicle does matter.
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:26 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I would need to see evidence of this to believe it.
I don't have sales numbers, but I have noticed an awful lot of older people that are cruising around in minivans lately. Obviously purely anecdotal, but it was something my wife and I were talking about the other day.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:27 pm to LNCHBOX
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And it's been answered plenty of times. And if you don't think perception of quality is part of the equation, I don't know what to tell you.
You continue to confuse quality and sales with the way a vehicle actually looks.
Even if you concede that idea that we're swayed to believe higher-end cars are the best looking cars, the question still becomes why don't more manufacturers make their vehicles look like the higher end varieties.
There are two answers:
1) They do not want to cannibalized their own luxury lines (Honda/Acura, Toyota/Lexus, Nissan/Infiniti, etc.)
2) There are some companies that do just that (Mazda, Kia, Hyundai, etc.)
The question in this thread is why don't other companies who do not fall into answer #1 follow suit.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:27 pm to PrimeTime Money
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That goes to show you that branding only goes so far. The actual vehicle does matter.
No one was talking about how the car drove or how reliable it is. We are talking about styling only. That was a great story though.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:29 pm to slackster
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Even if you concede that idea that we're swayed to believe higher-end cars are the best looking cars, the question still becomes why don't more manufacturers make their vehicles look like the higher end varieties.
They can't. No one will ever say a Honda is better looking than an Audi. You basically said as much yourself earlier. You're proving what I'm claiming, and you don't even see it
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:29 pm to LNCHBOX
I'm not arguing there's not a population segment that likes minivans.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:30 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:That was the first thing they noticed. That the Kia looked better than the Honda and Toyota.
No one was talking about how the car drove or how reliable it is. We are talking about styling only. That was a great story though.
The materials on the inside also seemed nicer. They said the Honda was pretty nice on the inside, but the Toyota actually looked cheap and they were disappointed.
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