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re: Which Group Had it Worse?

Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:21 am to
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:21 am to
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However, I've read articles where the Am. Indian may have come across the peninsula from Russia to north America way back when so I'll just go with Indians.


Is there really debate about this?
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:22 am to
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Oh don't i fricking know. I hear more belly aching coming from Americans than a limbless tongueless, earless person from Uganda


That's because (A) they're tongueless and, therefore, can't speak, and (B) they're in fricking Uganda and you couldn't hear them even if they could speak because you aren't, nor have you ever been, in Uganda.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:23 am to
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They should have fought back a little harder if “their” land was so important to them




GUNS, GERMS, & STEEL
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:24 am to
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This entire continent should be full of dark skinned people, like South America, but the white man came and took it all over.


Promoted liberty and freedom throughout the world and built it into one of the greatest nations in the history of man. Nothing to compare with what the South American Countries have done for the world of course.




Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:25 am to
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That's because (A) they're tongueless and, therefore, can't speak, and (B) they're in fricking Uganda and you couldn't hear them even if they could speak because you aren't, nor have you ever been, in Uganda.


You figured that one out.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:27 am to
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You figured that one out.


Yes and, therefore, what you said makes no fricking sense. Obviously you will hear more bellyaching from people that actually have the capacity to do so.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:27 am to
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Is there really debate about this?


Don't know, don't care. I just question the use of the word "native" if they did walk over.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:30 am to
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Yes and, therefore, what you said makes no fricking sense. Obviously you will hear more bellyaching from people that actually have the capacity to do so.



You're a little slow, aren't you?
Posted by KingRanch
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:31 am to
Indians
Posted by Hoyt
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:31 am to
Updated OP for all of the English Professors out there
Posted by Vegas Eddie
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:32 am to
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GUNS, GERMS, & STEEL






Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:17 pm to
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Don't know, don't care. I just question the use of the word "native" if they did walk over.


LINK

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Around 20,000 years ago a small group of these Asian hunters headed into the face of the storm, entering the East Asian Arctic during the Last Glacial Maximum. At this time the great ice sheets covering the far north had literally sucked up much of the Earth’s moisture in their vast expanses of white wasteland, dropping sea levels by more than 300 feet. This exposed a land bridge that connected the Old World to the New, joining Asia to the Americas. In crossing it, the hunters had made the final great leap of the human journey.


Being that they made it to North America 20,000 years ago, I'd say they qualify as Native. Now, the definition of "Native American" will have to change sometime in the future as much of the population has had 5+ generations born and raised here. I consider myself "native" american as in this where my family is from.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:20 pm to
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Vegas Eddie


So never mind the fact that Europeans had disease immunity, guns, swords, beasts of burden, and many other technological advantages; the Native's still could have won if they cared to? The massive die offs, rapes and murders didn't inspire them enough?
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:21 pm to
Those who to listen to every excuse in the book.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:24 pm to
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I'd say they qualify as Native.


I say we hand the US, Canada, and Central and South America back to the natives, whites return to Europe, blacks to Africa, and Asians to Asia. Mixed ancestry gets to pick their own poison. Truth be known, we should all return to Africa, the entirety of humans on planet earth. That's home for all of us, is it not?

Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:26 pm to
Why are you trying to pick an argument?
Posted by Vegas Eddie
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:27 pm to
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guns, swords





Who stopped them from creating these things for themselves?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:28 pm to
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Why are you trying to pick an argument?


Is there an argument over where we all are native to, and what our native land truly is?

Posted by BobABooey
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:41 pm to
Japanese internment is an interesting topic and usually doesn't address what happened to Japanese-Americans in Hawaii.

Based on the Ni'ihau Incident, and a pro-Japanese sentiment by many Japanese Americans in Hawaii, you would think that the residents of Hawaii would have been sent to camps like the folks in the mainland. But they weren't. Some say it was because the Japanese Americans there were too economically valuable, which kind of undercuts the argument that people were anxious to plunder their belongings.

Many in Hawaii actually aided the Japs during the war. F 'em.
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