- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Which conspiracy theories are indisputable ?
Posted on 9/2/23 at 3:22 pm to rickyh
Posted on 9/2/23 at 3:22 pm to rickyh
quote:
The Jan 6 invasion of the Capitol was set up by the Democrats using FBI and CIA mixed in with the crowd. And Antifa leading the way.
And the climate change and the population reduction is all a plan by the NEW World Order.
So you believe in the NWO yet you think there's a difference between Democrats and Republicans? That's some mental gymnastics
Posted on 9/2/23 at 4:35 pm to rickyh
quote:
The Jan 6 invasion of the Capitol was set up by the Democrats using FBI and CIA mixed in with the crowd. And Antifa leading the way.
Two things about that.
1. So, it was an imposter Trump who encouraged people to show up to the rally ("will be wild), whipped them into a frenzy and directed them to the Capitol?
2. If it was Antifa, and Trump is anti-Antifa, then why didn't he personally call in the National Guard? Why did he do nothing for three hours?
Posted on 9/2/23 at 5:35 pm to exiledhogfan
The dead baby project
Laughing at crazy conspiracy theories is good fun—until they turn out to be true. Take the conspiracy surrounding the “Project Sunshine,” for example. In the wake of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the U.S. government commenced a major study to measure the effects of nuclear fallout on the human body.
Conspiracy: The government was stealing dead bodies to do radioactive testing.
The truth: The government was stealing parts of dead bodies. Because they needed young tissue, they recruited a worldwide network of agents to find recently deceased babies and children, and then take samples and even limbs—each collected without notification or permission of the more than 1,500 grieving families.
Laughing at crazy conspiracy theories is good fun—until they turn out to be true. Take the conspiracy surrounding the “Project Sunshine,” for example. In the wake of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the U.S. government commenced a major study to measure the effects of nuclear fallout on the human body.
Conspiracy: The government was stealing dead bodies to do radioactive testing.
The truth: The government was stealing parts of dead bodies. Because they needed young tissue, they recruited a worldwide network of agents to find recently deceased babies and children, and then take samples and even limbs—each collected without notification or permission of the more than 1,500 grieving families.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 5:36 pm to TutHillTiger
Bad booze
Conspiracy: During Prohibition, the government poisoned alcohol to keep people from drinking.
The truth: Crazy conspiracy theories almost always suggest the government is behind it all—and they were right, again. Manufacturers of industrial alcohol had been mixing their product with dangerous chemicals for years prior to Prohibition. But between 1926 and 1933, the federal government pushed manufacturers to use stronger poisons to discourage bootleggers from turning the alcohol into moonshine. That didn’t stop the bootleggers or their customers, and by the end of Prohibition, more than 10,000 Americans had been killed by tainted booze. Limiting alcohol is a health advice doctors can agree on, but these 11 health controversies and conspiracies still divide people.
Conspiracy: During Prohibition, the government poisoned alcohol to keep people from drinking.
The truth: Crazy conspiracy theories almost always suggest the government is behind it all—and they were right, again. Manufacturers of industrial alcohol had been mixing their product with dangerous chemicals for years prior to Prohibition. But between 1926 and 1933, the federal government pushed manufacturers to use stronger poisons to discourage bootleggers from turning the alcohol into moonshine. That didn’t stop the bootleggers or their customers, and by the end of Prohibition, more than 10,000 Americans had been killed by tainted booze. Limiting alcohol is a health advice doctors can agree on, but these 11 health controversies and conspiracies still divide people.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 6:32 pm to CrimsonTideMD
Or someone who knows some truth…. Do you know something I don’t?
Posted on 9/2/23 at 6:37 pm to Sneauxghost
MK Ultra was real
Conspiracy: The CIA was testing LSD and other hallucinogenic drugs on Americans in a top-secret experiment on behavior modification.
The truth: The program was known as MK-ULTRA, and it was real.
The CIA started by using volunteers – the novelist Ken Kesey was one notable subject.
But the program heads soon began dosing people without their knowledge; MK-ULTRA left many victims permanently mentally disabled.
At the present time, another drug that alters food and perception and is causing great public concern because of its harmful effects is meth.
Conspiracy: The CIA was testing LSD and other hallucinogenic drugs on Americans in a top-secret experiment on behavior modification.
The truth: The program was known as MK-ULTRA, and it was real.
The CIA started by using volunteers – the novelist Ken Kesey was one notable subject.
But the program heads soon began dosing people without their knowledge; MK-ULTRA left many victims permanently mentally disabled.
At the present time, another drug that alters food and perception and is causing great public concern because of its harmful effects is meth.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 6:39 pm to TutHillTiger
They are reading your text and Conspiracy: With the advances in technology, the government is using its vast resources to track citizens.
The truth: In 2016, government agencies sent 49,868 requests for user data to Facebook, 27,850 to Google, and 9,076 to Apple, according to the Electronic Frontier Foundation (the EFF), a major nonprofit organisation that defends civil liberties in the digital world and advises the public on matters of internet privacy.
If you are concerned about your internet privacy, we asked technology experts to give us the lowdown on the likelihood you are being watched through your computer camera.
Also see testimony about canibal program
The truth: In 2016, government agencies sent 49,868 requests for user data to Facebook, 27,850 to Google, and 9,076 to Apple, according to the Electronic Frontier Foundation (the EFF), a major nonprofit organisation that defends civil liberties in the digital world and advises the public on matters of internet privacy.
If you are concerned about your internet privacy, we asked technology experts to give us the lowdown on the likelihood you are being watched through your computer camera.
Also see testimony about canibal program
Posted on 9/2/23 at 6:40 pm to Purplehaze
Fair question. There are operations behind the scenes apparently. Rumor has it we will get our answers in the next year or so. Let’s hope so. We the people deserve the truth.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 6:43 pm to Sneauxghost
Canada tried to develop real 'gaydar'
Conspiracy: The Canada government was so paranoid about homosexuality that it developed a “gaydar” machine.
The truth: It really happened: In the 1960s, the government hired a university professor to develop a way to detect homosexuality in federal employees.
He came up with a machine that measured pupil dilation in response to same-sex-erotic imagery; the Canadian government used it to exclude or fire more than 400 men from civil service, the military, and the Mounties.
Fortunately, things have changed a lot since those days. But here’s the one word you should never say in a job interview.
Conspiracy: The Canada government was so paranoid about homosexuality that it developed a “gaydar” machine.
The truth: It really happened: In the 1960s, the government hired a university professor to develop a way to detect homosexuality in federal employees.
He came up with a machine that measured pupil dilation in response to same-sex-erotic imagery; the Canadian government used it to exclude or fire more than 400 men from civil service, the military, and the Mounties.
Fortunately, things have changed a lot since those days. But here’s the one word you should never say in a job interview.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 6:44 pm to TutHillTiger
The US Public Health Service lied about treating black men with syphilis for more than 40 years.
In 1932, the Public Health Service collaborated with the Tuskegee Institute to record the history of syphilis in the black male community, hoping to justify a treatment program.
Called the Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male, the study initially included 600 black men — 399 with the disease and 201 without. While the men were told they would receive treatment, however, the researchers never provided adequate treatment for the disease. Even when penicillin became the preferred and available treatment for syphilis, researchers kept their subjects in the dark.
Although originally planned to last only six months, the experiment continued for 40 years. Finally, in 1972, an Associated Press article prompted public outrage and a subsequent investigation. A government advisory panel deemed the study "ethically irresponsible" and research ended almost immediately.
As a result, the government settled a class-action lawsuit out of court in 1974 for $10 million and lifetime health benefits for all participants, the last of whom died in 2004.
In 1932, the Public Health Service collaborated with the Tuskegee Institute to record the history of syphilis in the black male community, hoping to justify a treatment program.
Called the Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male, the study initially included 600 black men — 399 with the disease and 201 without. While the men were told they would receive treatment, however, the researchers never provided adequate treatment for the disease. Even when penicillin became the preferred and available treatment for syphilis, researchers kept their subjects in the dark.
Although originally planned to last only six months, the experiment continued for 40 years. Finally, in 1972, an Associated Press article prompted public outrage and a subsequent investigation. A government advisory panel deemed the study "ethically irresponsible" and research ended almost immediately.
As a result, the government settled a class-action lawsuit out of court in 1974 for $10 million and lifetime health benefits for all participants, the last of whom died in 2004.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 6:46 pm to TutHillTiger
The real vaccine issue.
More than 100 million Americans received a polio vaccine contaminated with a potentially cancer-causing virus.
From 1954 to 1961, simian virus 40 (SV40) somehow showed up in polio vaccines, according to the American Journal of Cancer. Researchers estimate 98 million people in the US, and even more worldwide, received contaminated inoculations.
Jonas Salk, creator of the inactivated-polio vaccine, used cells from rhesus monkeys infected with SV40, according to president of the National Vaccine Information Center Barbara Fisher, who testified before the Subcommittee on Human Rights and Wellness in the US House of Representatives on this matter in 2003, after researching the situation for 10 years.
The federal government changed oral-vaccine stipulations in 1961 — which didn't include Salk's inactivated polio vaccine — specifically citing SV40. But medical professionals continued to administer tainted vaccines until 1963, according to Michael E. Horwin writing for the Albany Law Journal of Science and Technology in 2003. And even after 1961, the American Journal of Cancer found contaminated oral vaccines.
Although researchers know SV40 causes cancer in animals, opinions vary on a direct link between the virus and cancer in humans. Independent studies, however, have identified SV40 in brain and lung tumors of children and adults.
The Centers for Disease Control did post a fact sheet acknowledging the presence of SV40 in polio vaccines but has since removed it, according to Medical Daily.
More than 100 million Americans received a polio vaccine contaminated with a potentially cancer-causing virus.
From 1954 to 1961, simian virus 40 (SV40) somehow showed up in polio vaccines, according to the American Journal of Cancer. Researchers estimate 98 million people in the US, and even more worldwide, received contaminated inoculations.
Jonas Salk, creator of the inactivated-polio vaccine, used cells from rhesus monkeys infected with SV40, according to president of the National Vaccine Information Center Barbara Fisher, who testified before the Subcommittee on Human Rights and Wellness in the US House of Representatives on this matter in 2003, after researching the situation for 10 years.
The federal government changed oral-vaccine stipulations in 1961 — which didn't include Salk's inactivated polio vaccine — specifically citing SV40. But medical professionals continued to administer tainted vaccines until 1963, according to Michael E. Horwin writing for the Albany Law Journal of Science and Technology in 2003. And even after 1961, the American Journal of Cancer found contaminated oral vaccines.
Although researchers know SV40 causes cancer in animals, opinions vary on a direct link between the virus and cancer in humans. Independent studies, however, have identified SV40 in brain and lung tumors of children and adults.
The Centers for Disease Control did post a fact sheet acknowledging the presence of SV40 in polio vaccines but has since removed it, according to Medical Daily.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 6:51 pm to TutHillTiger
A public-relations firm organized congressional testimony that propelled US involvement in the Persian Gulf War.
In 1990, a 15-year-old Kuwaiti girl identified only as "Nayirah" testified before Congress that she witnessed Iraqi soldiers pulling infants from their incubators at a hospital and tossing them to the ground to die.
A later investigation revealed that PR giant Hill & Knowlton arranged her testimony for a client, Kuwaiti-sponsored Citizens for a Free Kuwait, and furthermore that Nayirah was the daughter of Kuwait's Ambassador to the US, according to The New York Times.
Tom Lantos, a representative from California who cofounded the committee that heard Nayirah, coordinated the whole thing. Perhaps not coincidentally, his committee rented space in the PR firm's headquarters at a reduced rate. Citizens for a Free Kuwait would go on to donate money to foundations with ties to said committee sometime after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.
At first, Amnesty International affirmed the girl's testimony. But after reinvestigation, the group and other human-rights organizations switched positions. They didn't necessarily question the accuracy, just her withheld bias.
Nayirah's testimony helped build support for the Persian Gulf War, though Congress would have likely pursued involvement without her words.
In 1990, a 15-year-old Kuwaiti girl identified only as "Nayirah" testified before Congress that she witnessed Iraqi soldiers pulling infants from their incubators at a hospital and tossing them to the ground to die.
A later investigation revealed that PR giant Hill & Knowlton arranged her testimony for a client, Kuwaiti-sponsored Citizens for a Free Kuwait, and furthermore that Nayirah was the daughter of Kuwait's Ambassador to the US, according to The New York Times.
Tom Lantos, a representative from California who cofounded the committee that heard Nayirah, coordinated the whole thing. Perhaps not coincidentally, his committee rented space in the PR firm's headquarters at a reduced rate. Citizens for a Free Kuwait would go on to donate money to foundations with ties to said committee sometime after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.
At first, Amnesty International affirmed the girl's testimony. But after reinvestigation, the group and other human-rights organizations switched positions. They didn't necessarily question the accuracy, just her withheld bias.
Nayirah's testimony helped build support for the Persian Gulf War, though Congress would have likely pursued involvement without her words.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 6:53 pm to TutHillTiger
The Gulf of Tonkin incident
On August 2, 1964, the USS. Maddox opened fire on what it later claimed were several North Vietnamese targets. The skirmish deepened America’s involvement in the Vietnam War, leading to the death of thousands of U.S. soldiers and many more Vietnamese, including hundreds of thousands of civilians. Except, it turned out the “targets” the Maddox fired upon didn’t actually exist. It’s still debated today whether the incident was an intentional misdirection by the military. But one thing is certain: President Johnson’s original claim that the North Vietnamese fired first has been debunked. Even former Defense Secretary Robert McNamara admitted as much in an interview before his death. After all, it’s kind of hard to start a fight when you’re not even there.
On August 2, 1964, the USS. Maddox opened fire on what it later claimed were several North Vietnamese targets. The skirmish deepened America’s involvement in the Vietnam War, leading to the death of thousands of U.S. soldiers and many more Vietnamese, including hundreds of thousands of civilians. Except, it turned out the “targets” the Maddox fired upon didn’t actually exist. It’s still debated today whether the incident was an intentional misdirection by the military. But one thing is certain: President Johnson’s original claim that the North Vietnamese fired first has been debunked. Even former Defense Secretary Robert McNamara admitted as much in an interview before his death. After all, it’s kind of hard to start a fight when you’re not even there.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 6:54 pm to exiledhogfan
You are so uninformed and misinformed you need to go back to the kids table and let the adults talk.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 6:54 pm to TutHillTiger
Bohemian Grove: A secretive gathering of world elites
A secretive organization of people that control the world? Well, it turns out it does exist and many of its members are powerful world leaders and titans of industry. The real action happens at Bohemian Grove, which appears to primarily exist as a place “where the rich and powerful go to misbehave” according to The Washington Post.
Or, alternatively, to hear it from the group directly, where members, “share a passion for the outdoors, music, and theater.” However, along with more traditional fare such as drinking and big dinners, the regular activities also reportedly include performing rituals before a giant wooden owl, according to The Post.
Owners of the property host a two-week retreat in California each year for some of the wealthiest and most influential Americans. Past attendees include Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan, both of whom attended before entering the White House. Oh, and it’s where the idea for the atomic bomb was first sketched out.
No big deal. I have never been invited
A secretive organization of people that control the world? Well, it turns out it does exist and many of its members are powerful world leaders and titans of industry. The real action happens at Bohemian Grove, which appears to primarily exist as a place “where the rich and powerful go to misbehave” according to The Washington Post.
Or, alternatively, to hear it from the group directly, where members, “share a passion for the outdoors, music, and theater.” However, along with more traditional fare such as drinking and big dinners, the regular activities also reportedly include performing rituals before a giant wooden owl, according to The Post.
Owners of the property host a two-week retreat in California each year for some of the wealthiest and most influential Americans. Past attendees include Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan, both of whom attended before entering the White House. Oh, and it’s where the idea for the atomic bomb was first sketched out.
No big deal. I have never been invited
Posted on 9/2/23 at 6:58 pm to TutHillTiger
Operation Mockingbird: The CIA Propaganda Machine
In 1948, Frank Wisner was appointed director of the Office of Special Projects and told to create an organization that was capable of producing propaganda and engaging in economic warfare as part of the global war against Soviet Communism. The CIA took control of the office in the 1950s and maintained a secret campaign to influence media around the world for almost 25 years.
Wisner “owned” respected members of The New York Times, Newsweek, CBS and other media outlets. By the 1950s there were around 3,000 CIA employees and dozens of large global media outlets working to maintain a complex propaganda machine. Wisner, who was always looking for new ways to convince the public of the dangers of communism, facilitated the 1954 animated Hollywood production of George Orwell’s Animal Farm. The Church Committee exposed the conspiracy in 1975 and calculated that misinforming the world cost taxpayers $265 million a year.
In 1948, Frank Wisner was appointed director of the Office of Special Projects and told to create an organization that was capable of producing propaganda and engaging in economic warfare as part of the global war against Soviet Communism. The CIA took control of the office in the 1950s and maintained a secret campaign to influence media around the world for almost 25 years.
Wisner “owned” respected members of The New York Times, Newsweek, CBS and other media outlets. By the 1950s there were around 3,000 CIA employees and dozens of large global media outlets working to maintain a complex propaganda machine. Wisner, who was always looking for new ways to convince the public of the dangers of communism, facilitated the 1954 animated Hollywood production of George Orwell’s Animal Farm. The Church Committee exposed the conspiracy in 1975 and calculated that misinforming the world cost taxpayers $265 million a year.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 7:01 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Joe Biden did not get 81M legitimate votes
Posted on 9/2/23 at 7:04 pm to ItNeverRains
Skull and bones attempted Coup
Now this one will be of interest to many on here.
The Business Plot: Fascism in America
In 1933, Senator Prescott Bush (pictured below) – father of George Bush Sr. and grandfather of George W. Bush – tried to create a military coup against President Franklin D. Roosevelt and install a fascist dictatorship in the United States. The plot included wealthy businessmen from Chase Bank, Goodyear, Standard Oil, GM, and the Du Pont family. Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler was asked to lead the coup. Apparently no one did a background check before they approached him.
Smedley Butler, who was a vocal supporter of FDR, gathered evidence of the conspiracy and presented it to a Congressional Committee. Everyone implicated in the plot fiercely denied any involvement and no criminal charges were ever filed. The Committee confirmed Butler’s allegations, but was satisfied with having the conspiracy stopped before it started. The people who backed the Business Plot maintained financial ties with Nazi Germany until America entered World War II.
So they were all guilty of treason on the eve of WW2 and should have been publicly executed but not a damn thing happened to them because they were wealthy
Now this one will be of interest to many on here.
The Business Plot: Fascism in America
In 1933, Senator Prescott Bush (pictured below) – father of George Bush Sr. and grandfather of George W. Bush – tried to create a military coup against President Franklin D. Roosevelt and install a fascist dictatorship in the United States. The plot included wealthy businessmen from Chase Bank, Goodyear, Standard Oil, GM, and the Du Pont family. Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler was asked to lead the coup. Apparently no one did a background check before they approached him.
Smedley Butler, who was a vocal supporter of FDR, gathered evidence of the conspiracy and presented it to a Congressional Committee. Everyone implicated in the plot fiercely denied any involvement and no criminal charges were ever filed. The Committee confirmed Butler’s allegations, but was satisfied with having the conspiracy stopped before it started. The people who backed the Business Plot maintained financial ties with Nazi Germany until America entered World War II.
So they were all guilty of treason on the eve of WW2 and should have been publicly executed but not a damn thing happened to them because they were wealthy
Posted on 9/2/23 at 7:07 pm to TutHillTiger
So since the coup to take over the US to help the Nazis didn’t work we just became the Nazis .
Operation Paperclip: Nazi Scientists Find Employment in America
In 1945, the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency was given authorization to offer over 1,500 German scientists, technicians, and engineers from Nazi Germany and other countries employment in America. President Truman agreed to the program with the explicit instructions that it only includes those who were not found “to have been a member of the Nazi party, and more than a nominal participant in its activities, or an active supporter of Nazi militarism.”
This meant that Wernher von Braun, Arthur Rudolph, and Hubertus Strughold, who were listed as a “menace to the security of the Allied Forces,” would not be allowed to find new employment in America. The Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency decided these men were of vital importance to the development of the U.S. rocket program, created false employment and political biographies for the scientists and completely destroyed all evidence connecting them to the Nazi war machine.
Operation Paperclip: Nazi Scientists Find Employment in America
In 1945, the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency was given authorization to offer over 1,500 German scientists, technicians, and engineers from Nazi Germany and other countries employment in America. President Truman agreed to the program with the explicit instructions that it only includes those who were not found “to have been a member of the Nazi party, and more than a nominal participant in its activities, or an active supporter of Nazi militarism.”
This meant that Wernher von Braun, Arthur Rudolph, and Hubertus Strughold, who were listed as a “menace to the security of the Allied Forces,” would not be allowed to find new employment in America. The Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency decided these men were of vital importance to the development of the U.S. rocket program, created false employment and political biographies for the scientists and completely destroyed all evidence connecting them to the Nazi war machine.
Posted on 9/2/23 at 7:10 pm to TutHillTiger
The CIA kickstared the crack epidemic that devastated many US black urban areas in the ’80s in order to pay for death squads in Central America.
There was an investigative series in the mid-90s written by a journalist named Gary Webb in the San Jose Mercury News where he chronicled the CIA’s trafficking of cocaine on behalf of the anti-Communist Contras in Nicaragua. This got picked up by several other larger newspapers and prompted several official government investigations.
The paper got pushback which eventually led to them retracting parts of the investigative series and the official government reports whitewashed the entire thing and Gary Webb resigned in disgrace. He would later ‘kill himself’ in 2004.
There was an investigative series in the mid-90s written by a journalist named Gary Webb in the San Jose Mercury News where he chronicled the CIA’s trafficking of cocaine on behalf of the anti-Communist Contras in Nicaragua. This got picked up by several other larger newspapers and prompted several official government investigations.
The paper got pushback which eventually led to them retracting parts of the investigative series and the official government reports whitewashed the entire thing and Gary Webb resigned in disgrace. He would later ‘kill himself’ in 2004.
Back to top


0


