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re: Where can you sign the St. George petition?
Posted on 4/25/14 at 9:43 am to Antonio Moss
Posted on 4/25/14 at 9:43 am to Antonio Moss
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Metairie is a separate legal jurisdiction from New Orleans
New Orleans is the entire parish of Orleans...Metairie is unincorporated in Jefferson Parish and falls under parish jurisdiction.
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Posted on 4/25/14 at 9:47 am to mpar98
can someone get me up to speed on something?
what's LSURussian's 'dog' in the fight?
Is he a EBR School Board Member? A teacher?
Seems like a big old dickhead but I'm just a guy in the 70810 who thinks the people should be able to vote on it. Hell, it may not even pass based on the old people with grown kids who don't want higher taxes. I see the Better Together signs all over Oak Hills area.
But not letting us vote on it is tyranny.
what's LSURussian's 'dog' in the fight?
Is he a EBR School Board Member? A teacher?
Seems like a big old dickhead but I'm just a guy in the 70810 who thinks the people should be able to vote on it. Hell, it may not even pass based on the old people with grown kids who don't want higher taxes. I see the Better Together signs all over Oak Hills area.
But not letting us vote on it is tyranny.
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 9:48 am
Posted on 4/25/14 at 9:50 am to mikelbr
quote:That plus I'm a banker, a senator, a self-employed businessman, an inventor, a scientist, a philanthropist, and a hellava good looking dude.
what's LSURussian's 'dog' in the fight?
Is he a EBR School Board Member? A teacher?
quote:Can you find one single post I've made which suggests the people of SG should not be allowed to vote? I'm pretty sure you can't.
But not letting them vote is tyranny.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 9:55 am to LSURussian
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Can you find one single post I've made which suggests the people of SG should not be allowed to vote? I'm pretty sure you can
I didn't say you said that. I said you seem like a dickhead. Then stated my opinion that the people should decide the fate of their part of the parish. You're one argumentative motherfricker that's for sure. Maybe dickhead is a bit harsh though.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 9:59 am to mikelbr
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Maybe dickhead is a bit harsh though.
Yeah, you should just stick with motherfricker instead.
Argumentative? You're not?
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:02 am to mikelbr
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what's LSURussian's 'dog' in the fight?
Is he a EBR School Board Member? A teacher?
Between him, Pennymoney, and magilablowschunks, I can almost guarantee you that one of them either works very closely with Kip or is a council member. They are way too aggressive in their posting not to be. And ftr, I've always like Russian.
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 10:03 am
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:05 am to mikelbr
quote:That's "Mr. Dickhead" to you...
I said you seem like a dickhead.
quote:Me, too, as long as the cabal leading the effort are honest about it.
Then stated my opinion that the people should decide the fate of their part of the parish.
That's been my contention all along.
Bodi "Boss Hogg" White, Lionel Rainey, The Third, Hauffpauir (spelling?) are lying when they put on the SG official website that no new taxes will be needed to finance a new city and when they say in the media that they can build, equip and staff 6 new schools in a SG ISD without any additional taxes being needed.
Plus, if you look into the backgrounds of White, Rainey, The Third and Hauffpauir you quickly see their efforts are all about enriching themselves. Hell, Rainey, The Third, does not even live in St George! And he and White go way back as business partners with Rainey's firm getting a three-quarters of a million state contract without it going out for bid (pushed by White).
IMO, the only principal involved with the SG effort worthy of any praise is Norman Browning. He's a long-time school volunteer in the SG area (primarily Woodlawn HS) and he truly wants to do it for the betterment of the schools there. I want the schools there to improve, too, just not at the expense of the rest of the schools under the EBRSS.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:06 am to Mr. Tom Morrow
quote:You can rule me out. I didn't even vote for Kip Holden or the council member who represents my district, Delgado.
Between him, Pennymoney, and magilablowschunks, I can almost guarantee you that one of them either works very closely with Kip or is a council member.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:07 am to Mr. Tom Morrow
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I can almost guarantee you that one of them either works very closely with Kip or is a council member. They are way too aggressive in their posting not to be.
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They have strong opinions because they live here and it matters to them what happens to the place.
And so one man's argumentative is another man's opposing opinion, and seeing one lives here, it's kind of a no brainer that the future of the place in general would stir strong opinions and arguments,.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:12 am to LSURussian
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Correct, so why did you use it as a example comparing their situation to St George and EBR which are under the same local governmental jurisdiction?
Because SG is attempting to become a separate legal entity. While both would still be under the control of the Parish, BR and SG would be separated on the sub-parish level and be entitled to the revenue that comes with that set up . . . not unlike two separate entities like Metaire/New Orleans, Kenner/Harrahan, and NJ/NYC.
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There is no disputing that. I'm not sure why you're arguing the point. My point has been the sales taxes collected at the MoL are not paid exclusively by SG residents as they seem to claim in their hysterical shrieks about it being "their" money.
I have never claimed that. My point, which is straight forward, is that the argument that SG should not incorporate because non-SG citizens spend money at the MoL is nonsensical. Entities are entitled to the sales tax revenue generated within their borders.
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There is also no disputing that BR has a right to annex areas into its city limits if a majority of the property owners in those areas ask to be annexed.
And there is no dispute that the unincorporated area has the right to vote themselves incorporated and create a new, legal entity.
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For SG proponents to claim BR does not have a right or it's unfair for BR to annex the MoL, Perkins Rowe and L'Auberge casino is just whining. Plain and simple.
FYI, I have it one pretty good authority that the Casino is staying unincorporated regardless of what happens between BR and SG.
They absolutely have the right. But the motivation is because BR stands to lose its financial subsidization from outside the city. It's all about the money. This idea of "better together" is complete bullshite. The real slogan should be "better for me because I have my city services subsidized by people and business who don't get them." The city had zero interest in incorporating those areas before this all happened. Furthermore, if we truly are "better together" - which is utter bullshite - then BR should simply annex all of the unincorporated area and provide city services to all of us.
I won't hold my breath.
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You're really going is circles now.
My position on this has been clear since day one. The SG people are right on the merits as it concerns the consolidated government and distribution of funds and services. But from a realpolitik (that's for you, Russian) stance, I oppose the incorporation because the costs will outweigh the benefits.
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 10:15 am
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:27 am to Mike da Tigah
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OR
They have strong opinions because they live here and it matters to them what happens to the place.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:35 am to Antonio Moss
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The real slogan should be "better for me because I have my city services subsidized by people and business who don't get them.
Is that why 80% of the Green Light Plan money was spent in St. George?
Which specific services are you referring to?
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:41 am to urinetrouble
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Is that why 80% of the Green Light Plan money was spent in St. George?
Green light plan was a parish initiative not city.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:42 am to The Boat
Wasting your time. City of St George isnt happen any time soon.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:44 am to LSURussian
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The "entire city supports" = the sales taxes collected at the MoL. Unless you believe only SG residents shop there.
By that logic, Baton Rouge should be entitled to sales taxes generated at Bass Pro in Denham Springs or the outlet mall in Gonzales since Baton Rougeons choose to shop there. People from all over the region shop at that mall. Their sales taxes don't go back to their hometown.
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 10:46 am
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:45 am to Antonio Moss
Well then if anything the parish is subsidizing St. George when it comes to road and bridge construction.
What services is St. George subsidizing for the city?
What services is St. George subsidizing for the city?
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:46 am to member12
I have no problem with St George wanting to improve their public schools. More power to them. Just dont do it by harming all the rest of us that live and work in Baton Rouge. Screw that. Go back to the drawing board and come up with a better idea.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:47 am to member12
quote:Your logic sucks.
By that logic, Baton Rouge should be entitled to sales taxes generated at Bass Pro in Denham Springs or the outlet mall in Gonzales since Baton Rougeons choose to shop there.
quote:What "12" are you a member of?
member12
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:48 am to Mack
quote:Don't you understand we who live in BR don't have any skin in the game?
Just dont do it by harming all the rest of us that live and work in Baton Rouge.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:49 am to Antonio Moss
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Is that why 80% of the Green Light Plan money was spent in St. George?
Green light plan was a parish initiative not city.
Reading comprehension is not your strong point....
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