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re: When does this #MeToo movement lose credibility completely in the media?

Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:45 am to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:45 am to
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At this point some enterprising young dude ought to try it as a social experiment. Pick some high profile woman and just claim something and see if the same standard applies...


But I hope no one does that because that is equally as fricked up.

Maybe if the woman is a horrible person it'd be ok, but still. I don't want to stoop to that level.

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None of this is to say that guys that behaved truly badly should not be called out. but simply believing ANY woman about ANYTHING just because she claims it has got to stop.


Exactly.

There has to be some sort deterrent to false claims and currently there is absolutely none. Even women that have been proven to be liars have had no repercussions. That girl at UVA who was on the cover of Rolling Stone, got people fired, male students harassed and berated in the national media, and a fraternity kicked off campus ended up having no penalty for her false claims.

Truly unbelievable.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48304 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:50 am to
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It still dominates the news though


Only 3 in 10 Americans consider the American media trustworthy. What the media reports has little correlation to the feeling of the general public.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:51 am to
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At this point some enterprising young dude ought to try it as a social experiment. Pick some high profile woman and just claim something and see if the same standard applies...


I’ll volunteer.

Joe alleva and Ed orgeron raped me f King alexander joined in at the end.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 9:52 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48304 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:51 am to
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I think the Azi Ansari story started the slow build-up to people not giving a shite about it without actual evidence.



Never forget Duke Lacrosse
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15919 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:54 am to
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and was doing it wayyyy before this #MeToo bullshite


Maybe he's just a modern-day Nostradamus.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11291 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:12 am to
stop watching the news, get off social media, read books or books on tape, start a new hobby...happier.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:08 am to
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stop watching the news, get off social media, read books or books on tape, start a new hobby...happier.


I actually listen to NPR news which is the news minus 90% of the sensationalism. And even they report on allegations as fact before they are proven.

Knowing what is going on in the world is important.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84770 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:11 am to
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innocent until proven guilty or having an actual trial is so last century.


Meh, it's hard to take this defense seriously when people are so picky about when it applies. No one was arguing Jared from Subway was innocent until proven guilty at his trial.

The metoo movement has jumped the shark, but not for the reason you stated IMO.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:21 am to
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Meh, it's hard to take this defense seriously when people are so picky about when it applies. No one was arguing Jared from Subway was innocent until proven guilty at his trial.



There's a difference here. Yes, people called him a pervert before convicted, but he had actual charges and evidence against him that the public was privy too and formed an opinion from.

That is not the case for 99% of these #MeToo claims.


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And it was child porn, not a guy asking a girl out too many times or trying to kiss because he misread the signals she was giving.

This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 11:23 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84770 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:19 pm to
I get all of that, and I know the example was extreme, but you have to admit that the innocent until proven guilty line is only used when it's convenient.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:23 pm to
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IMO, it already has
Posted by LarryDavid
Los Angeles
Member since Sep 2010
4207 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:40 pm to
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