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re: when did it become "hip/cool" to not believe in god?
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:25 pm to 3morereps
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:25 pm to 3morereps
A lot of people think only simple minded folks believe in God and that's very far from the truth. There is a pod cast with two Astrophysicists that do a very convincing job of explaining the Bible and God. Surely those two cats aren't simple minded right?
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:30 pm to BurningHeart
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Correct-a-roo. The last 500 years have been science proving a topic that was originally explained differently in the bible... then religion taking a step back. Science proving more, religion takes another step back... and so on
What does science have to do with a person"s faith in the existence of a god? It is not something that can be proved or disproved by the scientific method. I may believe I have a invisible friend that is a giant rabbit, all the doctors and scientist in the world may agree that it cant possibly exist, but they cannot disprove it by observation or experiment.
Faith: strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:36 pm to Big_Sur
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When TV, radio, telegrams, the frickin printing press were invented. When microscopes and telescopes were invented. Suddenly we all came to know miracles are a sham, people who claim miracles happen are delusional or liars. Hume's famous argument about miracles started to make more sense to all of us.
My wife is a physician with 12+ years of education in the sciences and 30 years experience, she and all of the doctors I know believe in god and miracles. She has said many times, the more you learn about the human body the more obvious it becomes that it was not a random event without design.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:48 pm to EA6B
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My wife is a physician with 12+ years of education in the sciences and 30 years experience, she and all of the doctors I know believe in god and miracles
So if my wife is also a physician and she and the doctors don't believe in god and miracles, who do you believe?
Posted on 8/6/18 at 7:35 pm to BurningHeart
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So if my wife is also a physician and she and the doctors don't believe in god and miracles, who do you believe?
That decision is up to the individual, my point is that religion and science are not mutually exclusive.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 7:51 pm to BurningHeart
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miracles
Miracles are only a thing to people who don’t understand statistical probability
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:17 pm to BurningHeart
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The last 500 years have been science proving a topic that was originally explained differently in the bible... then religion taking a step back. Science proving more, religion takes another step back... and so on
I’m confused, in the last two hundred years, what science has Christianity stifled?
Furthermore, you act as if God being dead in society is a good thing. Nietzsche was the one who coined the phrase “God is dead” yet you act as if it’s a good thing. This is what Nietzsche had to say about it.
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God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?
What happened in the 20th Century in societies that outlawed the belief in God?
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:24 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
quote:No one's outlawing anything, man. You believe in a god, I won't. That's all there is to it.
What happened in the 20th Century in societies that outlawed the belief in God?
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:36 pm to Harry Caray
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No one's outlawing anything, man. You believe in a god, I won't. That's all there is to it.
Yeah but a lot of the atheists around here and in society scoff at Christians as a whole as us being backwards bigots (when in reality Christians are much more open and accepting), science denying and overall stupid. Most atheists out there believe in not only their intellectual superiority (when there’s no data to back that up) but also their moral superiority and we can see in the breakdown of the nuclear family and the rampant moral relativism in America today that they are not morally superior to Christians. And their “intellectual superiority” over Christians is dubious at best.
A whole helluva lot of atheists believe that we would be a better country without Christianity in it and that is frightening to Christians. There’s a deep seeded hatred out there for Christians.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:36 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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I’m confused, in the last two hundred years, what science has Christianity stifled?
Why are you choosing such an arbitrary number as 200, when I specifically said 500?
Could it be that you're trying to shave off the first 300 years where science was blowing away religion? Just sayin... you be honest and I'll reply honestly... it's a two way street.
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Furthermore, you act as if God being dead in society is a good thing.
Not at all. I like people believing in god because it helps keep them in line. Talking about the poors here. But I don't like legislation made with a religious undertone.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:53 pm to BurningHeart
You do realize that Western countries were responsible for all sorts of scientific growth before the Enlightenment correct? The US, an previously devout nation has been responsible for some of the greatest scientific discoveries in mankind’s history. Majority of the people that made scientific leaps in the previous 500 years as you say were Christians themselves.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:08 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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You do realize that Western countries were responsible for all sorts of scientific growth before the Enlightenment correct? The US, an previously devout nation has been responsible for some of the greatest scientific discoveries in mankind’s history. Majority of the people that made scientific leaps in the previous 500 years as you say were Christians themselves.
Yes that's correct.
That your only question?
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