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re: what kind of test
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:16 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:16 pm to fightin tigers
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Maybe some of those genius potheads that are being discriminated against can come up with a test.
They already have and Canada uses it. It's a strip that is applied to your tongue and can detect if you smoked marijuana in the past 48 hours. US companies don't use it because of pressure from the US government and financial penalties.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 11:18 pm
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Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:19 pm to Corkfather
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I'm not allowed to smoke weed at my job. I made the decision to choose my career over weed and I'm happy with that. However, it should be discussed and viewed rationally. The "War On Drugs" obviously isn't working and there's a damn good explanation for it's failures. It's time to let go of stigmas and stereotypes and look at the situation as human beings.
Agree wholly, did the same myself. It doesn't matter how rational the discussion is the drug will be abused. Just like alcohol (for some reason potheads love comparing weed to alcohol).
Not sure how to argue to war on drugs isn't working. Hard to say what we would be like if we laid down. Looks like it works good for South American countries.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:20 pm to fightin tigers
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Not sure how to argue to war on drugs isn't working. Hard to say what we would be like if we laid down. Looks like it works good for South American countries.
Or you could look at Portugal
ETA: Take the power out of the cartels. The only reason why it's so bad in SA is because it's illegal up here. Guess where all their money comes from? You guessed it. Exporting drugs to the USofA!
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:21 pm to Emiliooo
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Most people that smoke are also productive. It sucks to get denied opportunities because they like to smoke
I am denied opportunities because I don't have 20/20 vision. That isn't even a choice.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:23 pm to Emiliooo
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Or you could look at Portugal
Not legal in Portugal, Zippy.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:24 pm to fightin tigers
I shouldn't have said denied, rather inhibited.
I think it's stupid to smoke if you want to even think about taking a job where the possibility of getting drug tested is real. However, I don't think you should be judged and denied employment because you like to smoke. Your interviewing and resume and all other intangibles that go into the process should be the determining factor
I think it's stupid to smoke if you want to even think about taking a job where the possibility of getting drug tested is real. However, I don't think you should be judged and denied employment because you like to smoke. Your interviewing and resume and all other intangibles that go into the process should be the determining factor
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:24 pm to Ed Osteen
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Well the only difference here is one is still currently illegal while the latter is not...
That's a stupid premise. Do you have any idea how many unnecessary and outdated laws are on the books?
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:27 pm to fightin tigers
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Not legal in Portugal, Zippy.
Decriminalized then. It would be way more beneficial
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:27 pm to fightin tigers
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Not sure how to argue to war on drugs isn't working. Hard to say what we would be like if we laid down. Looks like it works good for South American countries.
I'm sure that both the politicians and cartel leaders down there would agree. Huge influxes of US taxpayer dollars that they can use to make bribes and fund guerrilla armies while increasing production and appeasing the DEA.
The War on Drugs has very little to do with drugs. Its about MONEY.
The drug problem in the US continues to get worse and they're more than happy to continue making money feeding it and pretending to stop it.
I'll be in Bogota for the majority of March and April. I'll be sure to get their opinion on it while I'm down there.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:28 pm to Emiliooo
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Your interviewing and resume and all other intangibles that go into the process should be the determining factor
True, would you volunteer that you drink to blacking out twice a month? Would you admit in an interview to the hooker you banged in Cabo? Would you admit in an interiew to that crazy night you and a buddy had with that chick that had an Adam's apple?
Of course not. Your ability on the job should be all that counts, but that's not the way the world works. Testing for pot gives the company a way to reveal that you don't like following rules, no matter how trivial.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:33 pm to fightin tigers
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Testing for pot gives the company a way to reveal that you don't like following rules, no matter how trivial.
Well, it would be interesting to see how many people out there "don't follow the rules" meaning give everyone a drug test tomorrow and see who turns up. I'm sure it would surprise you.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:33 pm to Emiliooo
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Decriminalized then. It would be way more beneficial
Gotcha, you can use it. Just can't buy it, sell it, grow it.
Sounds like an excellent government plan.
Truthfully. The government doesn't legalize it because of money/jobs. The US doesnt give a shite about your health. I agree the war on drug provides both of those. Legalize it completely and lots of jobs go away. What administration wants to be the one to write pink slips to that many government workers?
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:34 pm to fightin tigers
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Maybe some of those genius potheads that are being discriminated against can come up with a test.
I don't mean to pick on you, but this is just false logic. Plenty of certifiable geniuses have had issues with substances. Sometimes to the benefit of mankind while a detriment to themselves.
There are a lot of people that drink copious amounts on Their own timeand then come to work. I don't believe that something someone does on Their own time that is no longer affecting them on work time is any business of the companies.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:35 pm to Emiliooo
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I'm sure it would surprise you.
What would surprise me?
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:36 pm to fightin tigers
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I agree the war on drug provides both of those.
How much does the US lose on imprisoning people that possess weed?
Think about the cost of imprisoning and the opportunity cost of those people actually working in the world.
Guess who has to pay for those jobs? You and me
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:37 pm to fr33manator
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I don't mean to pick on you, but this is just false logic. Plenty of certifiable geniuses have had issues with substances. Sometimes to the benefit of mankind while a detriment to themselves.
It was a comment on Corkfather's assumption that businesses set themselves up for a competitive disadvantage because they drug test.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:38 pm to fightin tigers
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What would surprise me?
The amount of people and the type of people that would test positive. Yes, you may not follow all the rules to the T, but that doesn't mean you aren't productive at work and contribute.
For most, people will do what they think is right, not do what other people will say is right. It's important to think for yourself, and not follow what some person has to say. Educate yourself and make smart decisions
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:39 pm to Emiliooo
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How much does the US lose on imprisoning people that possess weed?
A better question would be, how much does the private prison lobby gain?
You'd have a lot of influential campaign contributors prettyyyy pissed if you went and took a huge portion of their prison population away after they just built these huge new facilities.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:39 pm to Emiliooo
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How much does the US lose on imprisoning people that possess weed? Think about the cost of imprisoning and the opportunity cost of those people actually working in the world. Guess who has to pay for those jobs? You and me
So, free all the convicts, write pink slips to all he drug warriors.
Yeah, this sounds like an awesome American economy.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:39 pm to lsugambit
the company I work for is a sub contractor for entergy and depending on where we are working they send us for a drug test ....its always piss in a cup ...
but we only have to do it for certain facilities like Waterford 3 and some of their data centers...
but we only have to do it for certain facilities like Waterford 3 and some of their data centers...
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