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re: what kind of test
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:36 pm to rbWarEagle
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:36 pm to rbWarEagle
You're still forgetting you can get breathalyzed at certain jobs if you show up still drunk the next morning
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:36 pm to fightin tigers
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If pot is legalized they will more than likely still test for it. We had sites in Colorado that had to send out emails reminding everyone that weed on a drug test will still be a terminating offense.
That's the company's right. Those employees were employed by the company at the time and should be subject to it's rules.
Is it stupid? Definitely. Are they putting themselves at a competitive disadvantage? Without a doubt.
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Every drug test I have taken has had a screen for alcohol as well.
Goes back about 8-12 hours.
Companies asserting governance over what people were doing months before they even applied for a job is just absurd.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:38 pm to Corkfather
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Are they putting themselves at a competitive disadvantage? Without a doubt.
Lord knows only people who get high are geniuses.
Good way to get sued as a company, have an employee test positive for pot after an accident.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:40 pm to fightin tigers
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Good way to get sued as a company, have an employee test positive for pot after an accident.
The same can be said for alcohol or prescription drugs taken as prescribed.
There are ways to easily discern when these were consumed. There should be a similar test for weed.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:43 pm to Corkfather
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The same can be said for alcohol or prescription drugs taken as prescribed.
Yep, which is why they are tested for as well.
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There are ways to easily discern when these were consumed. There should be a similar test for weed.
From what I gather the test for weed is thrown off if you are a frequent user. So many mmg/something or another. A pothead will be in here shortly to set it straight.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:44 pm to Corkfather
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There are ways to easily discern when these were consumed. There should be a similar test for weed.
That's the thing though. THC is hydrolipid, meaning it'll stay in your body via your fat.
I don't know if there really is a way to test when you smoke or how often you smoke
ETA: Is it hypolipid? I don't know, it likes fat
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:45 pm to Emiliooo
I'm sure there's a way to do it. I highly doubt that its cost-effective though, which is all that really matters.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:46 pm to Corkfather
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I'm sure there's a way to do it. I highly doubt that its cost-effective though, which is all that really matters.
Maybe some of those genius potheads that are being discriminated against can come up with a test.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:50 pm to fightin tigers
It'd be an even better, cheaper idea to judge people on their performance in the workplace and nothing else.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:51 pm to Corkfather
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Companies asserting governance over what people were doing months before even applied for a job is just absurd.
I agree with this completely...however, companies in industry that are regulated by the department of transportation (such as energy, etc.) are required by federal law to perform a specific regimen of drug and alcohol testing...so those companies really don't heve a choice...
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:53 pm to Corkfather
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It'd be an even better, cheaper idea to judge people on their performance in the workplace and nothing else.
Guess all these companies have the wrong idea doing background checks for felonies.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:55 pm to fightin tigers
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Guess all these companies have the wrong idea doing background checks for felonies.
Smoking weed recreationally as a college kid and being a convicted felon are two extremely different things. They don't even belong in the same conversation.
A felony conviction can affect someone's ability to do their job (international travel restrictions, etc.); smoking weed can't.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:58 pm to Corkfather
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Smoking weed recreationally as a college kid and being a convicted felon are two extremely different things. They don't even belong in the same conversation.
Oh, so there is a point where doing illegal stuff trumps what you can do on the job.
For you it appears to be the second time you are arrested for possesion.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:03 pm to fightin tigers
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For you it appears to be the second time you are arrested for possesion.
Since when is a 2nd offense possession of marijuana an automatic felony nationwide?
Not to mention all the new decriminalization laws. Hell, even some municipalities in Louisiana have decriminalized simple possession.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:04 pm to fightin tigers
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Oh, so there is a point where doing illegal stuff trumps what you can do on the job.
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Man, your views on weed are so skewed
Yeah, it's illegal. It's also illegal to go one mile an hour over the speed limit.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:08 pm to Corkfather
Guess I should have said second conviction. Didnt say automatic, just saying that it could be.
Personally, I could care less about the legality. Just find it funny that some people want to spout off how they are being oppressed by being tested for weed, but threads like this show they volunteer to be tested because they want to work for someone who wants to oppress them.
Personally, I could care less about the legality. Just find it funny that some people want to spout off how they are being oppressed by being tested for weed, but threads like this show they volunteer to be tested because they want to work for someone who wants to oppress them.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:08 pm to Emiliooo
I guess Nixon and others of his ilk succeeded in brainwashing a huge segment of society in order to further their own political agendas. Unfortunately, many of these people are still alive and voting.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:08 pm to Emiliooo
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Man, your views on weed are so skewed
Tell me my views on weed?
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:11 pm to fightin tigers
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Personally, I could care less about the legality. Just find it funny that some people want to spout off how they are being oppressed by being tested for weed, but threads like this show they volunteer to be tested because they want to work for someone who wants to oppress them.
Again, it is a business owner's right to do so if he so chooses.
I'm not allowed to smoke weed at my job. I made the decision to choose my career over weed and I'm happy with that. However, it should be discussed and viewed rationally. The "War On Drugs" obviously isn't working and there's a damn good explanation for it's failures. It's time to let go of stigmas and stereotypes and look at the situation as human beings.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:12 pm to fightin tigers
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Personally, I could care less about the legality. Just find it funny that some people want to spout off how they are being oppressed by being tested for weed, but threads like this show they volunteer to be tested because they want to work for someone who wants to oppress them.
The way you are posting, it does seem like you do care
Most people that smoke are also productive. It sucks to get denied opportunities because they like to smoke. My friends that were interviewing and interning for the summer stopped smoking during Christmas break. I didn't get tested, so I had the liberty to do whatever I felt like.
It's crazy, I work for one of the biggest companies in the world, and we don't feel the need to drug test our employees.
ETA: Also, I might add, that we are one of the most productive companies and most respected companies in our industry
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 11:15 pm
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