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re: What is the most well made factory car in the world?
Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:11 pm to SEClint
Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:11 pm to SEClint
While not a match for the W126 Mercedes, the military-grade trucks are supposed to be pretty stout in civilian hands.
Land Rover Defender (my favorite SUV)
General Motors Hummer H1 Alpha
Mercedes-Benz G550
Toyota Land Cruiser Series 70
Americans can actually buy the Mercedes G550.
Land Rover Defender (my favorite SUV)
General Motors Hummer H1 Alpha
Mercedes-Benz G550
Toyota Land Cruiser Series 70
Americans can actually buy the Mercedes G550.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 7:28 pm
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:13 pm to motorbreath
1985 Chrysler K car
Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:22 pm to member12
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Land Rover Defender (my favorite SUV)
They couldn't be cooler, but they're not well made. Poor welds, inadequate rust proofing, parts that don't align properly, antiquated and underpowered engines... Rover just never had the money to do it right.
My personal pick would be a W124, although I think the W123 and W126 look better.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:24 pm to Lima Whiskey
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They couldn't be cooler, but they're not well made.
The Defender is pretty sturdy as a no-frills military truck. Those things are a far cry from the pimped out Discovery and Range Rover's you see clocking up service departments everywhere. You are right about them having some build quality issues though. Their durability was in their simplicity....certainly because of the workmanship.
Sadly, they haven't been made available to the American market for a long time now. I really, really want one.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:24 pm to member12
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W126 Mercedes Benz.
This, this, this all day long and it's not even a contest. Late 98 is when MB started getting sloppy, same with BMW. Thank the bean counters for terrible early 2000's reliability.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:28 pm to NWarty
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This, this, this all day long and it's not even a contest. Late 98 is when MB started getting sloppy, same with BMW. Thank the bean counters for terrible early 2000's reliability.
The R129 and the W124 were really the last ones worth buying.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:36 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The R129 and the W124 were really the last ones worth buying.
Would agree. The leasing programs of the early 2000's really put on blemish on both manufacturers.
No way in hell I'd buy a 2000-present BMW. Wouldn't even lease one, but I'd rock an E30/36 all day long.
My father has an 04 SL and I was shocked at the really chintzy quality of certain things in the car, and the car has incredibly low miles. My Mom's E350 definitely feels like a more solid car
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:40 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The R129 and the W124 were really the last ones worth buying.
Yep.
I think the Tuscaloosa-built W163 chassis products came out in the US market around the time of the Chrysler merger.....and it may have been worse than anything Chrysler was building at the time. That was the official transition from a "good" car company to an "expensive" car company.
If that wasn't the low point of Mercedes-Benz in the American market, then there's a good chance we are there right now....with the W176-based CLA and GLA shite boxes all over the place. The GLC looks like a complete joke as well.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:46 pm to East Coast Band
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Compared to American 1978 cars? Not quite.
Nah, they were crap.
Voluntary export quotas in the 80's saw Japanese companies move to producing higher end products and they've never looked back.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:52 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Maybach 63L
Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:53 pm to member12
For about 40k you can get a 20yr old defender.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:05 pm to Turbeauxdog
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For about 40k you can get a 20yr old defender.
The 1993 Defender 110 that I want can get up to a buck forty.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:23 pm to Turbeauxdog
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For about 40k you can get a 20yr old defender.
Spanish imports can run as low as 25k.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:31 pm to member12
WTF are you smoking?!? built like a tank....perhaps. Reliable....uh, no! ANYthing from Toyota trumps this & it's not even close.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:34 pm to member12
The Merc GWagon is a compete shitbox.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:35 pm to 225bred
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Honda Accord
My family has owned a lot of Hondas, and can attest that they do indeed make a fantastic engine. The problem is that the rest of the car is a crapshoot on it lasting more than 5 years.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:50 pm to Bmath
Agree on the 2000-2006 GM trucks/suv's. They're tanks. Love those trucks. 2007-2013 are absolute garbage though.. Had to rebuild the engine on my 09' Silverado and it still burnt oil after. Got rid of it earlier this year. Bought an 06' Tahoe Z71 and love it. Perfect for what I need from a car. Runs and looks great. Best part, no car note.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 5/30/16 at 9:26 pm to Napoleon
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Maybach 63L
You have refined, albeit expensive, taste.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 9:30 pm to Bmath
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My family has owned a lot of Hondas, and can attest that they do indeed make a fantastic engine. The problem is that the rest of the car is a crapshoot on it lasting more than 5 years.
Yeah we are about to get rid of our Accord. Only 60,000 miles and the transmission is on the way out. This was our first Honda and I'm honestly not impressed at all.
It's still way less problematic than our Toyota Camrys were. That's not saying much though.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 9:40 pm to member12
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It's still way less problematic than our Toyota Camrys were. That's not saying much though.
But does your Camry have one or more of these? :)
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