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re: What Fathers Need to Possess in Order to Man Up in an Increasingly Feminized World

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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260547 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:36 pm to
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As a man, you should take pride in doing things right, even when no one is watching.


Is this autoeroticism?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79207 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:41 pm to
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Eh, I'm fine with trying to educate young men on these matters. It's important and needed, especially as masculinity is under attack.

But we need to stop acting like it's men that are the only ones failing, which many of these articles seem to imply.


I interpret it more as men aren't really rising to the moment. Not that we created the crisis (although we helped in a lot of parts) - but that we should take ownership of it.

And I do think there are unfortunately a ton of men who aren't aware/don't care/etc. It's probably split pretty evenly between sloth and weak-mindedness. The former is probably the bigger culprit among our types. Southern, conservative men tend to know what's needed, but we're not necessarily great at following through with it. That's our own failing, but it's also the product of a culture that minimizes the value of most of the ideas discussed.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26995 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:41 pm to
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days on end, and ‘work from home’.


Working from home is a way the world has changed. It gives way to all the other stuff you mention. If you put on a shirt and tie and shave everyday to work from home, I think you are going insane.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 7:08 pm to
I do most of these. Here's how it works out in the real world.



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Courage: First and foremost, a man doesn’t shrink from a necessary challenge. He’s willing to face danger, difficulty, and self-denial for the sake of others.


Goes unrecognized. Seen as being brash when recognized.

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Step Up: A man is the first one out of his seat (figuratively and literally) when a crisis arises. The man takes initiative as a problem solver.


Viewed as being bossy and controlling.

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Provide and Protect: A man must learn and be willing to provide and care for those who depend upon him. This is typically demonstrated in being a husband and father. Even if he never marries, he still provides for others. As anthropologist David Gilmore correctly concludes, “A man produces more than he consumes,” and the community benefits from his work and generosity.


Will be taken advantage of and then come to be expected and undervalued. Often leads to resentment by those cared for.

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Self-Reliance: A man stands on his own and refuses to depend on others for his well-being. The Boy Scout Motto is “Be Prepared,” because the man doesn’t want to have to depend on the preparedness of another.


Not a team player. Doesn't connect well with others. Doesn't work well in groups. Loner.

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Honesty and Moral Strength: A man does what’s right and calls out others who don’t. He deals with others in integrity. He can be trusted to do what’s right when no one is watching. His word is his bond.




Good luck with that shite

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Tenacity: A man doesn’t easily give up or shrink away in the face of adversity. The phrase “It can’t be done” doesn’t come easily to him.


Hard-headed. Reckless

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Self-Control: A man is aware of his proper limits—his strength, appetites, independence, language, and power—and respects them. He calls others to do the same. He gives himself a command—and keeps


Party pooper.

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Loyalty: A man is loyal to his family, friends, and community, even at great price to himself


Sucker. Punk.

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Humility: A man esteems others as valuable and lifts them up. He understands the strength in apologizing and asking forgiveness


Patronizing. Weak.

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Compassion: This might seem a feminine quality, but a man sees the struggles of the vulnerable and readily comes to their aid. This is a moral strength. A man doesn’t exploit an innocent person’s weakness


Refuses to take advantage of his opportunities.

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He Lives His Character: Lastly, if manhood is a distinct set of character traits, the final quality is that he lives them out in action, and he does so conspicuously in the community. Passivity is the precise opposite of manliness


Self-aggrandizing
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 7:09 pm
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