re: What do you tip at a restaurant?

I get where you're coming from. My wife and I have this conversation often. She bartendered and waited her way through college and while I worked retail, I was never working in the service industry. I get that they have shitty tables and get stiffed for no fault of their own. I'm just very easy to please and very easy to get a really good tip from, but I've had a couple experiences where we both felt even 15% was too much for the level of service we received. In these circumstances, the place we were at was not overly busy or understaffed. We were just simply forgotten or ignored and we honestly couldn't decide which was worse.

That's about exactly how we are. I give a lot of leeway in those three too if the place is busy or understaffed. I've only given below 15% a handful of times in my life, but I felt they were all deserved.

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I've had a couple experiences where we both felt even 15% was too much for the level of service we received. In these circumstances, the place we were at was not overly busy or understaffed. We were just simply forgotten or ignored and we honestly couldn't decide which was worse.

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I understand. You tip, it's all good. There is a certain demographic that refuses to tip and I can only imagine how waiters/waitresses feel about waiting on them.

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My wife worked at a place that had a Sunday kids eat free coupled with a 2 for $20 type promotion. She have a group of 15 tip like $20 total. They definitely get fricked hard and often by certain groups.

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That's totally fricked up. I'm guessing this place your wife worked at consolidated the check for big groups so these people could see a $20 tip was pure bullshite. But they did it anyway. That's the hallmark of pure trash.

I don't tip. Their employer should pay them according to how valuable their service is. If they don't, that's not my fault

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African Americans usually tip 10% because that's what they typically know to tip at say a sonic or something along those lines

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African Americans usually don't tip at all. African Americans that work in the service industry hate to wait on other African Americans for that reason. I vacation a lot in the Caribbean...every bartender will tell you...Europeans and black Americans don't tip.

Yeah, your friend is right.

There are so many factors that go into it. White middle aged men tend to tip incredibly. Elderly white men, not so much. But you have your outliers, such as older men who are regulars and love all the girls working. Elderly white women tip 10%-15% because they don't know any better. Middle aged white women tend to have a stick up their arse and often don't tip too great. Young white girls tip far better than young white guys, on average. Especially frat guys. The "bro" type of dude rarely tips well. Black men are all over the board. Trashy black men don't tip well. Non-trashy black men tip as good as white men. Black women, regardless of trash factor, rarely tip well.

And then you have the people that never go to restaurants and tip a $5 bill no matter what they spend.

When I waited tables, I averaged 20% at the end of the night when I compared my tips to my sales. All of my coworkers hovered around there too. The overtippers make up for the shite ones, but that's still no excuse to be a jerk.

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Trashy black men don't tip well.

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We've had this discussion on here in the past, started by a black poster. According to you, all black posters on this board are trashy, since they all had a problem with tipping.

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The overtippers make up for the shite ones

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Who are the overtippers? That's the only group that you didn't go into detail about.

Depends on the service. Shitty service probably 10% but it'll have to be bad.