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re: Waffle House workers are the latest group to strike, requesting $25 per hour

Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:57 pm to
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What good or service becomes cheaper if your pay gets cut?


You have no concept of how the world actually works do you...



Gee, I guess not. I always thought money had to come from somewhere.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296368 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:58 pm to
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Gee, I guess not. I always thought money had to come from somewhere.


Correct. The customer, ultimately. So tip big and skip the middleman.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24657 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:59 pm to
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I don't like your attitude, you come off as an arse. Whenever I spend too much time talking with people like you, I inevitably end up lowering myself to your standards of decency and behavior. The only way to avoid it is AI assisted replies in verse, and I ain't got time to do that for you. Just Roger. So please disregard my future comments, and I will do likewise for you.




What a whiny bitch you are.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296368 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:00 pm to
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Fast food and many restaurants are where the working poor work.


Weird, they could get jobs in manufacturing, construction etc and no longer be working poor.

Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:00 pm to
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have 24-hour security for all restaurants.



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this one is actually easy and cheap to fix.

allow on duty uniformed police officers a free meal while on shift.

cop cars in parking lot and/or patrolling the neighborhood surrounding Waffle House will clean up a lot of the mess quickly.

and will only cost you about $20-$30 a night.


What am I missing here?

Cops cant just go sit at waffle house all day long because they got a free meal and be security.

As an owner, I also cant count on a cop being there for security because I give him free meals. The cop probably has to go do his actual job for the city.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:01 pm to
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Cops are never off duty.


Sorry my AI couldn't do it justice. Your expectation that cops work 24/7 for shxt pay and having to deal with lowlifes all day is a perfect example of what is wrong with policing in this country.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296368 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:02 pm to
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Your expectation that cops work 24/7


I said.

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Cops are never off duty


You are so fricking stupid.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:03 pm to
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they could get jobs


Kinda seems like you don't know how the real world works. Makes sense considering how much deliberate effort you put into trying to convince people you do. Which is mostly just a bunch of name calling.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 1:04 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296368 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:04 pm to
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Cops cant just go sit at waffle house all day long because they got a free meal and be security.


He said nothing of the sort.

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this one is actually easy and cheap to fix.

allow on duty uniformed police officers a free meal while on shift.

cop cars in parking lot and/or patrolling the neighborhood surrounding Waffle House will clean up a lot of the mess quickly.


Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:07 pm to
The convo started as the place needing 24 hour security

Go back to your slap fight with tuba
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296368 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:13 pm to
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The convo started as the place needing 24 hour security


A dozen cops at parking and cruising by at various times of the night does that. Each one is only there for the meal. The cars in the area is the security.

It works in retail centers. One visible cop car.

The only problem with the idea is that Waffle House would be giving out more free meals than selling meals. Every cop would come eat there. it would be safe, but not profitable.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296368 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:14 pm to
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Kinda seems like you don't know how the real world works


How many jobs have you had, fat boy? One since you graduated and think Economics is a foreign language.

Why did you go to college then grad school? You saw some benefit, that it could help you attain a lucrative career.

So you once understood what you do not understand now.

This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Deek
Member since Sep 2013
1239 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:22 pm to
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24-hour security for all restaurants.


The one that I was in a couple of weeks ago definitely security. To break up the cook and a waitress.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13284 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:46 pm to
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Unlike you, I don't have to cry and hold my breath to get a raise from an employer.

Just admit youre an economic retard and have no clue what the tradeoffs to paying unskilled workers $25/hr.



Why did you hold your breath so long that it caused permanent brain damage?

Look, I get it. $25 an hour bad. $7.25 good. Even less is better. Makes my Big Mac and my Allstar Breakfast affordable. Except it doesn't...production costs have no impact on market price. If they did there'd be no need to manage costs. You have made it abundantly clear that you are either willfully ignorant, obtuse or simply stupid.

There is no tradeoff to paying unskilled labor whatever the cost of production is. They are either going to make their nut each month by their labor, on the dole, through criminal activity or a combination of the three. What you are supporting is the latter. A combination of the three. Because you are a fricking moron. I would bet you also do not like any kind of public assistance and your hate crime. And you also hate the idea of employers footing the bill for their production costs out of their revenue. Their cost of production is either reflected in the price of the goods or services they produce or the costs of those PLUS the taxes it takes to store, maintain and fuel them OR the taxes it takes to keep their criminal activity in check. There is no free lunch...they will either pay their bills through labor, the dole, crime, or a combination. There is no alternative.

Lets recap. A business has revenue. Its revenue must meet or exceed its expenses unless the business is meant to lose money for whatever reason.

The business above requires labor, for whatever reason the management of the business above has not found a cost effective way to eliminate labor.

That labor is derived from human beings who require fuel, storage and maintenance just like any other piece of production equipment used in a business. If that human being has some unusual skill or some unusual experience or education or whatever it may be they may very well make more money than it costs them to produce their labor. That person is in a position to improve themselves and make even more money, if their employer is amenable to the idea.

Some work does not require these special skills. This is what we call unskilled or low skilled labor. The people who are employed in these jobs are only going to have their needs met in whole or partially through their labor, the dole, crime or a combination because the work is not such that requires any more than that...showing up and working. Showing up and working, however, costs something. The same as any other piece of equipment used to produce a good or service labor has a production cost. Those costs include fuel, storage and maintenance. They are being fueled, they are being maintained and they are being stored...and most employers pay these costs completely out of their revenue. Low wage employers rely on you to help them cover those costs through taxation.

Production costs have nothing at all to do with market price or market value. If your business model relies on labor it is incumbent upon you to control those costs and, unless you are a welfare recipient like WalMart and McDonalds and other low wage employers it is your responsibility to ensure your employes production costs are covered by you and you alone with no help from taxpayers. If you are a welfare queen like WalMart and McDonalds you can rely on the lowest forms of hate filled scum in the United States to defend your tax dollar stealing ways because they are filled with hate and have fricked their own lives up to a point that they are no longer capable of the truth or reason.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296368 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:47 pm to
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Look, I get it. $25 an hour bad. $7.25 good.


Progressives are economically illiterate.

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Some work does not require these special skills. This is what we call unskilled or low skilled labor. The people who are employed in these jobs are only going to have their needs met in whole or partially through their labor, the dole, crime or a combination because the work is not such that requires any more than that...showing up and working.


These people are easily replaceable and have no real market value.

Do you know how to change that? You do it with opportunity, not arbitrary wages.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 1:49 pm
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:48 pm to
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You are so fricking stupid.


You aren't actually capable of replying to any post I make without saying something belittling, can you? Are you actually a grown man? I would say a prayer for you, but I'm atheist, so, oh well!
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 1:49 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296368 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:50 pm to
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You aren't actually capable of replying to any post


I've informed you throughout this thread what the economic tradeoffs are, and you still fricking do not understand. I believe the Dunning Kruger effect is being perfectly illustrated by yourself.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296368 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:51 pm to
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If you are a welfare queen like WalMart and McDonalds


Stop individual and corporate welfare immediately.

Boom
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:51 pm to
A..fricking...men
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296368 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:52 pm to
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A..fricking...men


You can't understand 1/10th of what he said.
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