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Vanity Fair: "Exorcist" director William Friedkin watches real-life exorcism
Posted on 11/1/16 at 1:38 am
Posted on 11/1/16 at 1:38 am
It's still Halloween in Hawaii and this expose by Vanity Fair concerning William Friedkin's sit in on a real-life exorcism is effing freaky. He filmed it and there are stills of the rite in the article but the film hasn't been officially released yet. He took the footage to neuroscientists and psychologists. Only one psychologist tried to rationalize what they saw. The rest couldn't explain it.
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Dr. Neil Martin is chief of neurosurgery at the UCLA Medical Center. He has performed more than 5,000 brain surgeries and is regularly cited as in the top 1 percent of his specialty. On August 3, I showed him the video of Rosa’s exorcism. This is his response: “Absolutely amazing. There’s a major force at work within her somehow. I don’t know the underlying origin of it. She’s not separated from the environment. She’s not in a catatonic state. She’s responding to the priest and is aware of the context. The energy she shows is amazing. The priest on the right is struggling to control her. He’s holding her down, as are the others, and the sweat is dripping off his face at a time when she’s not sweating. This doesn’t seem to be hallucinations. She appears to be engaged in the process but resisting. You can see she has no ability to pull herself back.”
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I’ve done thousands of surgeries, on brain tumors, traumatic brain injuries, ruptured brain aneurysms, infections affecting the brain, and I haven’t seen this kind of consequence from any of those disorders. This goes beyond anything I’ve ever experienced—that’s for certain.”
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I was eager to pursue another path, one devoted to the treatment and prevention of mental disorder. I took the video to a group of some of the leading psychiatrists in the country, all in residence at Columbia University: Jeffrey Lieberman, director of the New York State Psychiatric Institute; Michael B. First, professor of clinical psychiatry; Roberto Lewis-Fernández, president-elect of the World Association of Cultural Psychiatry; and Ryan Lawrence, M.D., assistant professor of clinical psychiatry.
LIEBERMAN: I’ve never believed in ghosts or that stuff, but I’ve had a couple of cases, one in particular that really just gave me pause. This was a young girl, in her 20s, from a Catholic family in Brooklyn, and she was referred to me with schizophrenia, and she definitely had bizarre and psychotic-like behavior, disorganized thinking, disturbed attention, hallucinations, but it wasn’t classic schizophrenic phenomenology. And she responded to nothing,” he added with emphasis. “Usually you get some response. But there was no response. We started to do family therapy. All of a sudden, some strange things started happening, accidents, hearing things. I wasn’t thinking anything of it, but this unfolded over months. One night, I went to see her and then conferred with a colleague, and afterwards I went home, and there was a kind of a blue light in the house, and all of a sudden I had this piercing pain in my head, and I called my colleague, and she had the same thing, and this was really weird. The girl’s family was prone to superstition, and they may have mentioned demon possession or something like that, but I obviously didn’t believe it, but when this happened I just got completely freaked out. It wasn’t a psychiatric disorder—you want to call it a spiritual possession, but somehow, like in The Exorcist, we were the enemy. This was basically a battle between the doctors and whatever it was that afflicted the individual.
ME: Do you completely disregard the idea of possession?
LIEBERMAN: No. There was no way I could explain what happened. Intellectually, I might have said it’s possible, but this was an example that added credence.
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 3:16 am to RollTide1987
Surely these doctors have seen somebody in the throes of a psychotic episode or under drug influence who displays superhuman strength or other strange behavior.
OTOH Jung definitely believed in the supernatural, although he thought of it as the collective human unconscious rather than a deity.
OTOH Jung definitely believed in the supernatural, although he thought of it as the collective human unconscious rather than a deity.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 5:54 am to RollTide1987
Demonic possession is not real.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:17 am to RollTide1987
Who downvoted this? One of the dumb christians or one of the dumb athiests? Both annoy me
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:22 am to BigEdLSU
Submit your evidence.
If they weren't priests they would be charged with abuse and neglect.
If they weren't priests they would be charged with abuse and neglect.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:10 am to RollTide1987
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RollTide1987
YMSCIH
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:11 am to RollTide1987
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Vanity Fair: "Exorcist" director William Friedkin watches real-life exorcism

Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:13 am to Scooba
girl, get out of bed and wash ya arse ! and get the cross out ya pussy !
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:15 am to JombieZombie
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Submit your evidence.
If they weren't priests they would be charged with abuse and neglect.
Evidence schmevidence. You won't believe any of it, unless you already accept that it's true...
I mean...are you asking for some kind of science man test for the supernatural??
Just stop. You're only arguing because you REALLY believe...
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:15 am to MorbidTheClown
I wasn't sure if my quote was appropriate so I acronymed it. Exorcist fans know what I mean.
Is that a word, acronymed it? YMSCIH
Is that a word, acronymed it? YMSCIH
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:17 am to Scooba
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Is that a word, acronymed it? YMSCIH
Your mother sucks cocks in hell.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:20 am to Scooba
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YMSCIH
took me a minute..
Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:22 am to MorbidTheClown
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girl, get out of bed and wash ya arse ! and get the cross out ya pussy !
What the frick is that funky smell...and all that racket upstairs? Is the girl crazy? Smell like shite in here...some devilish shite at that!
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:29 am to Scooba
Dami Dami..... Why you do dis to me?
Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:49 am to Mo Jeaux
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Demonic possession is not real.
I'll introduce you to my ex-girflriend and you'll change your mind within 2 minutes tops
Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:51 am to BigEdLSU
quote:for it to be real demons would be real, for demons to be real God would have to exist, God doesn't exist
Ohhhhh yes it is
Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:51 am to rpr4695
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I'll introduce you to my ex-girflriend and you'll change your mind within 2 minutes tops
Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:55 am to rpr4695
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I'll introduce you to my ex-girflriend and you'll change your mind within 2 minutes tops
i'm dying to hear this story.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 11:07 am to RollTide1987
Francesco and I watched in stunned silence as Rosa slid around the floor, pulling Giuliano and the chair with her. For a moment, she stared at me with a malevolent grin I will never forget. Then came a sad, painful moan as she collapsed into a trance. Then a terrifying roar that burst from her whole body. RAAAAARRRRGGGGGHHH!!
The color drained from her face. Her disheveled hair flew wildly in all directions. Foamy spittle formed on her pale lips. She made a shrill wailing sound, over which her mother yelled at me, in Italian, “Give us back the film!”
To which Rosa shouted, “NO! NO! NON VOGLIO.” (I don’t want it.)
She collapsed again, with a tearful, exhausted expression.
Giuliano (clutching her tightly): “YOUR FILM MUST NEVER BE SEEN!”
Francesco, riveted, breathing with difficulty, translated everything quickly.
Rosa: “SI! SI IO VOGLIO.” (Yes! I want it seen.)
Mother: “What will happen to my son if the film is shown?”
It struck me as odd that she was concerned more about her son than about her daughter, who was under his curse. Rosa shouted furiously again.
I tried to appear calm, but I was terrified. I said, “I’m not going to give you the film.”
Giuliano: “I KNOW WHY YOU WANT TO SHOW THIS. TO MAKE A FAMOUS FILM ABOUT SATAN. YOU DON’T CARE IF SHOWING IT WILL RUIN ROSA’S LIFE!”
Rosa’s attempts to break free from Giuliano’s grip were directed toward her mother, not me or Francesco. Her leaps and thrusts became more violent.
I told Francesco to tell them there was no film. It was a video, on a little card. I thought they would have no idea what I was talking about, but Giuliano smiled and said, “Oh, it’s an SD card. You must bring it here and we will burn it.”
“I’ll never give you the video,” I said, raising my voice. “I made it to show the work of Father Amorth.”
Mother: “We will get lawyers, and we will sue you and Father Amorth.”
Rosa: “IO SONO SATANA!!!” (I am Satan!)
Giuliano: “She is possessed by Satan. If you show it, it will be used by Satan’s followers.”
Rosa (writhing and kicking): “NO! NO! I WANT IT TO BE SEEN. I WANT IT TO BE SEEN.”
Giuliano: “If you don’t give it back to us, we will kill you! Satan will kill you! We will find your family, and we will kill you all!”
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What an awkward situation
The color drained from her face. Her disheveled hair flew wildly in all directions. Foamy spittle formed on her pale lips. She made a shrill wailing sound, over which her mother yelled at me, in Italian, “Give us back the film!”
To which Rosa shouted, “NO! NO! NON VOGLIO.” (I don’t want it.)
She collapsed again, with a tearful, exhausted expression.
Giuliano (clutching her tightly): “YOUR FILM MUST NEVER BE SEEN!”
Francesco, riveted, breathing with difficulty, translated everything quickly.
Rosa: “SI! SI IO VOGLIO.” (Yes! I want it seen.)
Mother: “What will happen to my son if the film is shown?”
It struck me as odd that she was concerned more about her son than about her daughter, who was under his curse. Rosa shouted furiously again.
I tried to appear calm, but I was terrified. I said, “I’m not going to give you the film.”
Giuliano: “I KNOW WHY YOU WANT TO SHOW THIS. TO MAKE A FAMOUS FILM ABOUT SATAN. YOU DON’T CARE IF SHOWING IT WILL RUIN ROSA’S LIFE!”
Rosa’s attempts to break free from Giuliano’s grip were directed toward her mother, not me or Francesco. Her leaps and thrusts became more violent.
I told Francesco to tell them there was no film. It was a video, on a little card. I thought they would have no idea what I was talking about, but Giuliano smiled and said, “Oh, it’s an SD card. You must bring it here and we will burn it.”
“I’ll never give you the video,” I said, raising my voice. “I made it to show the work of Father Amorth.”
Mother: “We will get lawyers, and we will sue you and Father Amorth.”
Rosa: “IO SONO SATANA!!!” (I am Satan!)
Giuliano: “She is possessed by Satan. If you show it, it will be used by Satan’s followers.”
Rosa (writhing and kicking): “NO! NO! I WANT IT TO BE SEEN. I WANT IT TO BE SEEN.”
Giuliano: “If you don’t give it back to us, we will kill you! Satan will kill you! We will find your family, and we will kill you all!”
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What an awkward situation
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