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re: US court sentences Ahmaud Arbery killer to life in prison

Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:42 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:42 pm to
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Yes it is


Trespassing is a crime. They absolutely knew and had witnessed him committing crimes, and somehow you dispute this while also posting proof that you're aware of it:

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Both times they saw Arbery enter the house, nothing was ever stolen
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50468 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:43 pm to
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Yeah, this scenario would have resulted in a life sentence as well


Based on the legal interpretation used in this case, then yeah I guess it would have. That's the problem.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:43 pm to
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Based on the legal interpretation used in this case, then yeah I guess it would have. That's the problem.


Wrong
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50468 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:43 pm to
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And I don’t call walking through a house under construction a crime


Ok, but trespassing is a crime whether you call it one or not.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50468 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:45 pm to
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Neither would I, but it's still not a felony.


Which apparently means you, as a citizen, can't stop people from trespassing on your property and would be guilty of murder if your attempt to stop them led to their deaths.

Well, at least in Georgia.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50468 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:46 pm to
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Wrong


I guess we could assume the jury wouldn't find the homeowner guilty in that scenario, but that doesn't change the fact that it would be the same set of circumstances (attempting to detain someone you witnessed commit a "non-felony").
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 5:48 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:50 pm to
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Why do you care so much? The utter obsession with the left/right bull shite is a mental illness.


Yea politics doesn’t have anything to do with this trial.

If Ahmaud was white or the shooters were black this would have been a side note on page 10.

I dare you to try to challenge that fact. You can’t and you won’t because you know this case has everything to do with race despite no evidence that it has anything to do with race.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:51 pm to
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They KNEW he had committed crimes in their area and had witnessed it previously.


What crimes did they have direct knowledge of?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50468 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:51 pm to
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If Ahmaud was white or the shooters were black this would have been a side note on page 10.


And the shooters wouldn't be doing life in prison and never would have gotten federal charges.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50468 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:52 pm to
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What crimes did they have direct knowledge of?



Trespassing. As has been stated multiple times.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18284 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:53 pm to
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Trespassing is a crime. They absolutely knew and had witnessed him committing crimes, and somehow you dispute this while also posting proof that you're aware of it:


Again, the idea that you can hold someone at gunpoint every time you see them because you know they've committed crimes in the past is fricking idiotic.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35319 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:53 pm to
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but that doesn't change the fact that it would be the same set of circumstances (attempting to detain someone you witnessed commit a "non-felony").


Again, wrong.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35319 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:55 pm to
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I dare you to try to challenge that fact. You can’t and you won’t because you know this case has everything to do with race despite no evidence that it has anything to do with race.


The case got attention because it was initially covered up by the local DA(s).
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:55 pm to
McMichael deserves to do life, he committed murder.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:56 pm to
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Trespassing. As has been stated multiple times.


So trespassing is justification for making a citizens arrest/ holding someone at gunpoint? What about littering?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50468 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:57 pm to
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Again, the idea that you can hold someone at gunpoint every time you see them because you know they've committed crimes in the past is fricking idiotic.



Why? That's exactly what the police do. The police are not better than you are.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50468 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:57 pm to
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Again, wrong.


You not liking it doesn't make it wrong.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18284 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:58 pm to
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So trespassing is justification for making a citizens arrest/ holding someone at gunpoint? What about littering?


This guy argued a few pages back that not allowing people to perform armed citizens arrests before a felony occurs promotes lawlessness.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35319 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:58 pm to
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Why? That's exactly what the police do.


Wrong.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50468 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:59 pm to
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So trespassing is justification for making a citizens arrest/ holding someone at gunpoint? What about littering?


I have no problem with a citizen holding anyone for a crime they witness. Laws shouldn't only be as strong as the police response time.
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